TRF502? - Page 2

Mr. Red · #21 03-09-2010

Think about it. If Fredrik hadn`t invented the diff cover, the 511 is pretty much useless on loose dirt tracks. Tamiya has not made one of their own and from what I have seen the Japanese race a lot on loose dirt. Pretty much in the rest of the world also.

DaveG28 · #22 03-09-2010

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Originally Posted by TRF_AK

People in Hong Kong need to keep quiet about sensitive information. All questions will be answered at the Tokyo Hobby Show.

Well you don't need to look too hard to see who, they post under their store name

Can you at least confirm it IS a 4wd 1/10 offroad trf?

blitzboy · #23 03-09-2010

Very interesting thread guys but if tamiya do bring a new 4wd out to replace the 511 and make it shaft drive then don't change Tue geometry surely this will ruin the car as the tamiya seems to drive so well as belt and from experience with a lot of shaft drive 4wd that I ve run when I had a go with a 511 I will admit it wad far better than any shaft drive kit I've never owned ...for me belt drive is awsome I just can't bring myself to get a back loan for a 511 with all the upgrades costing a total of 700 from what I was told its too much for me but will say if it was cheaper then I would

Rich D · #24 03-09-2010

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Originally Posted by blitzboy

Very interesting thread guys but if tamiya do bring a new 4wd out to replace the 511 and make it shaft drive then don't change Tue geometry surely this will ruin the car as the tamiya seems to drive so well as belt and from experience with a lot of shaft drive 4wd that I ve run when I had a go with a 511 I will admit it wad far better than any shaft drive kit I've never owned ...for me belt drive is awsome I just can't bring myself to get a back loan for a 511 with all the upgrades costing a total of 700 from what I was told its too much for me but will say if it was cheaper then I would

if you buy wisely then you can knock a hundred or so off that G. You dont need all the upgrades, just depends how much bling you want really ! I reckon you could build a reliable non bling 511 for around £500 rolling chassis.

DaveG28 · #25 03-09-2010

When is the hobby show?

Rich D · #26 03-09-2010

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Originally Posted by DaveG28

When is the hobby show?

http://www.tamiya.com/english/show0210/show0210_1.htm

This is Dave ?

Welshy40 · #27 03-09-2010

Shaft drive sucks. If Tamiya drop this 511 then they will never get my bysiness again.

DaveG28 · #28 03-09-2010

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Originally Posted by Rich D

http://www.tamiya.com/english/show0210/show0210_1.htm

This is Dave ?

I wondered, but the rate is after the quoted lsunch date so I think it's from years ago, they say they're launching the TB Evo 3, aren't they on the 6 already?

Nige · #29 03-09-2010

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Originally Posted by Rich D

http://www.tamiya.com/english/show0210/show0210_1.htm

This is Dave ?

Those dates are for 2002, but normally shows are around the same time every year so we're looking mid-next month!

TRF_AK · #30 03-09-2010

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Originally Posted by DaveG28

Well you don't need to look too hard to see who, they post under their store name

Can you at least confirm it IS a 4wd 1/10 offroad trf?

The problem is that the stores get the information from their agents who are the ones who need to stop releasing this information. This information is given to us with specific dates that it cannot be given out before.

Based on the dates, I cannot disclose anything right now. When I can, I will come here first.

You guys SHOULD be happy when the details come out.

DaveG28 · #31 03-09-2010

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Originally Posted by TRF_AK

The problem is that the stores get the information from their agents who are the ones who need to stop releasing this information. This information is given to us with specific dates that it cannot be given out before.

Based on the dates, I cannot disclose anything right now. When I can, I will come here first.

You guys SHOULD be happy when the details come out.

No worries, can you at least confirm when the hobby show is itself, I am failing with google!?

TRF_AK · #32 04-09-2010

Haha, yes it is mid October. I don't have the calender in front of me, but I believe it is the weekend of the 16th and 17th. I believe a list of items being shown will coming out week aftger next as well, but will probably get leaked out more next week. Once the items are posted, I can talk more about it.

helmet993 · #33 04-09-2010

Thanks Andrew, it is pretty cool having an insider from Tamiya post on this forum!

TonyV2382 · #34 04-09-2010

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Originally Posted by Mr. Red

Think about it. If Fredrik hadn`t invented the diff cover, the 511 is pretty much useless on loose dirt tracks. Tamiya has not made one of their own and from what I have seen the Japanese race a lot on loose dirt. Pretty much in the rest of the world also.

Thats exactly right. On looser tracks out here in the US, it is pretty much useless and the whole car would need a rebuild if you ran it on such a track. Astro/carpet or hardfloor you'll be golden...maybe even hardpacked dirt, but no racer I know out here would run a belt driven car on a looser track outdoors.

This is where shaft shines...but I loved my 501x. Best thing Ive ever driven. But had to go rango for the days I race outdoors. Cant beat shafts reliability and gear diffs are sweet. But I always had a TRF in my arsenal...now its the 201. If tamiya change it to shaft I will go back to their 4wd.

4wdfull · #35 04-09-2010

I've had no problems racing on any kind of dirt track with my 511. If your undertray is cut properly and you use velcro and the diff dust covers there should be no problem. It seal tighter than any 4wd I've ever driven.

I did have a weight come lose and get lodged in the rear diff housing but that was my fault. In short....best 4wd buggy ever..... Having said that I would like to see a tub chassis option just becaus I don't like undertrays.

carnage · #36 04-09-2010

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Originally Posted by 4wdfull

Having said that I would like to see a tub chassis option just becaus I don't like undertrays.

There is one, it's called the DB01R, Not as much bling but fully sealed drivetrain

Jan Larsen · #37 04-09-2010

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Originally Posted by 4wdfull

If your undertray is cut properly and you use velcro and the diff dust covers there should be no problem

Precisely. A properly cut and installed undertray together with Fredriks gear covers and the car will be as dirt capable as any shaft car.
Also, I've been using the car in the rain on numerous occasions this year (due to the shit climate we have here) and theres not a drop of water inside the car after a heat.

CraigM · #38 06-09-2010

While I don't have a problem running my 511 on dirt tracks here in oz I still like the idea of a shaft driven TRF with sealed gearboxes. They also have 416 gear diffs in the pipeline so maybe they'll find a way to shoehorn them into the car and we'll have a TRF durango

muratti · #39 06-09-2010

If it would be that Tamiya are releasing a Shaft driven TRF i would be back again with Tamiya. I just bought a AE B44 this year as my first non Tamiya car since 11 years because the track i race on is loose dirt and as i realized from a friends DB01R how many problems he had with his diff i found it wiser to not even have the risk of damaging my diffs or rebuilding them every 10 battery charges.
The B44 is just perfect for my track.

mof · #40 06-09-2010

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Originally Posted by muratti

If it would be that Tamiya are releasing a Shaft driven TRF i would be back again with Tamiya. I just bought a AE B44 this year as my first non Tamiya car since 11 years because the track i race on is loose dirt and as i realized from a friends DB01R how many problems he had with his diff i found it wiser to not even have the risk of damaging my diffs or rebuilding them every 10 battery charges.
The B44 is just perfect for my track.

Interesting. The DB01R has sealed drivetrain (if you just remember to seal it as the manual suggests) so it shouldn't be an issue... it wasn't for me at least on my DB01.