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Old 23-05-2011
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Default Vintage Cat Re-built, almost ready to race...

Thought I'd post up a few pics of my Cat.. Then I'm going to get some electrics installed, and have a race or two with it..

I'm wondering how I'll fit everything in, given that the chassis space on this is not much dissimilar to my Durango, and the receiver from my JR Apex is almost as big as half a saddle pack! I must have managed it at some point. Of course leaving out the vintage radio is not an option! The oldest speed controller I have is a Novak Cyclone, not really old enough, but being small will help for now.

I would like to fit a nice Parma cat shell to this, so PM me if you have one.

I am also after the small plastic battery strap hook and a rear servo post as they are missing. I will probably have to sort something different to run the car, but would still like one.
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Old 24-05-2011
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That is one sweet build! Where will you run it?
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Old 24-05-2011
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Thanks Kaszal,

It wiill most likely be a few runs at my local club, Telford Hot Trax, but I'll see how it goes. If it proves to be a bit of fun, maybe I'll give it a run out somewhere else..
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Thought I'd post up a few pics of my Cat.. Then I'm going to get some electrics installed, and have a race or two with it..

I'm wondering how I'll fit everything in, given that the chassis space on this is not much dissimilar to my Durango, and the receiver from my JR Apex is almost as big as half a saddle pack! I must have managed it at some point. Of course leaving out the vintage radio is not an option! The oldest speed controller I have is a Novak Cyclone, not really old enough, but being small will help for now.

I would like to fit a nice Parma cat shell to this, so PM me if you have one.

I am also after the small plastic battery strap hook and a rear servo post as they are missing. I will probably have to sort something different to run the car, but would still like one.
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Old 24-05-2011
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Very nice! An alloy inner mount will finish it off a treat

I've also got some vintage Tekin speedos (411s and the like) if you want to stay retro with the electrics? I love the JR Apex, esp with the flexi antenna.

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Hah, shameless plug but yes, you definitely need an inner trans housing... like me!

Indeed, minichamps is a purveyor of quality vintage Schueys goodies.
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There are 3 inner alu housings on e***.

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Very nice Dazzler!!!
imull, you have a message re. parts

Are they std gold part or have you had them anodized?
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Very nice Dazzler!!!
imull, you have a message re. parts

Are they std gold part or have you had them anodized?

MMS specials the gold parts were on a car I had from D4ve on here, see my friends list, most of the guys that run at Telford hot trax many years back knew Alan Stewart owner of mms, and D4ve had these parts produced for him. So sort of standard vintage hop ups!
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IMO the alloy z-bracket and alloy inner trans housing were the best mods for the rear gearbox (plus the slipper, alloy eccentrics and Bosscat diff!) but really they keep the gearbox and shafts true and the threads won't get stripped.
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How does the bosscat rear diff compare with the mms one?
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It's sealed to keep dirt out, has an extra set of bearings and the pulley works with the hi-torque belts. Just sold one on eBay. The MMS one piece nylon is very strong but it doesn't have the alloy carriers and doesn't feel so smooth.
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Thanks, mine does feel nice and smooth at the moment, so I'll wait and see how it degrades with a bit of use, but I remember them being very good. Obviously with regular diff maintenance. I have some different rear belts than the standard black one, they look like Kevlar reinforced ones, they are a transparent orange colour, not as bright orange, and not solid coloured like the main belt you have.

What are the high torque belts like, I never had a boss cat, so no idea?
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Ah, you must have some Wasp urethane belts. I think those are the standard MXL pitch but I'd like to see a photo. Been looking for some of those to try out. The hi-torque ones have a more rounded profile so less likely to slip I think.

Are you running a mild motor? Just think you might need a slipper to protect the drivetrain.
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I was thinking of running a 10.5 then wind in some timing advance. (that's if I opt for putting brushless gear in). Could also dial out some of the initial punch. Then just see how it goes...

I don't have a slipper to fit, so backing it off isn't an option.

I'll sort a pic out of the belts.. They are MXL, they say so

Car has the front end in bits at the moment, waiting for some different bearings to come as I'm just fitting a few new bits myself..

The pic reminds me, I need to cut the self tapping screws down on the layshaft bearing holders before I run it, they are not as close to the belts as the pics would make you think though.
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Nice... the Wasp belts, like the long belt, can be run tight and are more hardwearing than the stock neoprene belts. I think they don't fray as much. Where did you get them?
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Unfortunately Kaszal, I don't have a miracle supplier, they were in a car I brought to strip for spares without even seeing it As were spare MMS diffs and Layshaft.
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I also have this 'Z' mount fitted (MMS I believe) Will do the job I recon
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I got 2 full sets of the battery straps & hooks that were left over from the bosscat i just sold, i also have a slipper, im pretty sure it is the bosscat 1 but will get Kaszal to confirm this for me when i see him next sunday, possibly also got a pro diff as well
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Ok, could be some use then! Just let me know what the verdict is on Kaszals examination.

I know WASP made a slipper to fit the MMS layshaft, which I'd like, but I bet I have more chance of digging up gold in my back garden than finding one of those.

The battery straps are just for when it's in standard trim really. In reality, I'll need to knock up a lipo retainer and straps for running it.
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