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There are six national rounds in 2011 - 3 in 2wd and 3 in 4wd. Your best 2 results from the 3 count.

1 May - 4wd Round 1 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan
5 June - 2wd Round 1 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan
26 June - 4wd Round 2 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan
14 August - 2wd Round 2 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan
4 September - 4wd Round 3 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan
18 September - 2wd Round 3 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan

SAVE THE DATES!!!!

It costs 10 euros to join the RCCAOI, and a race fee for each day also applies - more info later.
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With only 6 weeks to first RCCAOI round, I thought I'd stick a bit of info up for the newbies

1. The RCCAOI (Radio Controlled Car Association of Ireland) is the sport's governing body which runs the Irish National Championship each year.

2. This year there is a Modified and a Clubman (10.5 motors or greater) class at each event. It is hoped that everyone will take part.

3. Your overall position will determine whether you are offered an entry for the next Euros/Worlds

4. All of the events in 2011 are scheduled to be held in Griffeen Valley, but it is hoped that as soon as another club is in a position to hold a round of the series that they will.

5. Your performance in the RCCAOI series determines your formula grading for the following year. So if you do well at the nationals, you may find yourself in a faster heat next year.

Ill add more info as I think of it - or else you can post a question.

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2. This year there is a Modified and a Clubman (10.5 motors or greater) class at each event. It is hoped that everyone will take part.
Does this include Clubman 4WD?
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Does this include Clubman 4WD?
I can't speak for the Association, but I don't see why not. I think its very important that the RCCAOI caters for all levels of racers in an effort to increase the pool of knowledge and ultimately make drivers faster.

I would imagine that a 4wd clubman class can only benefit the championship and section.

I will speak to Tony Kavanagh (the RCCAOI 1/10 Offroad rep) and ask him about this, or he may respond directly if he looks at the this thread.

I would suggest that the class is goverened to be most beneficial for the novice racers - maybe the "Stock" spec advanced timing esc's should be banned....?..... otherwise it defeats the spirit of the competition
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If you were making up a ruleset for a clubman I would strongly advise that "stock" spec speed controllers are outlawed or at least made sure they don't use the advancing profiles as otherwise you're just running a modified. My GM120 2010 + Graupner 10.5t can easily beat a 6.5t and give most 5.5t's a run for their money.
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hows it going lads.with respects to a 10.5 4wd clubman class it is planned and once there is interset will be run.the spirit of the clubman class will be no advance timing allowed and spot checks will be performed.also motor timing is to be as per manufacturer settings when new.if you wish to run a 10.5 with timing advance you would be welcome in the modified class.
entries for the nationals will be taken on the day but pre entry would be greatly appriciated(entries to me at tonymk@eircom.net stating name,club and class entered and crystals.)
as will mentioned the membership fee to join the rccaoi is 10 euro one off payment plus 5 euro one off payment per class,with a race fee on each day to be confirmed with the dmcc. feel free to contact me on oople or at the above email with any questions you may have

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RCCAOI membership forms.

http://www.rccaoi.com/joinrccaoi.html

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Myself and Colin hope to do all these rounds or at least 2 per class to get a position
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Question Stock spec decisionsssssssss

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Can you decide now what speedos are allowed in 10.5 as I have just bought stock spec lrp to run in 10.5 .
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Can you decide now what speedos are allowed in 10.5 as I have just bought stock spec lrp to run in 10.5 .
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Ivan
Hi Ivan,

Stock spec speedo defeats the purpose of the clubman class. The speedo can be tuned so the 10.5 goes more like a 6.5.

I'll be making recommendation to the Association rep that rather than "banning" these speedos that any driver with one should only race in the Modified section. It means that the Clubman section will remain a nursery for emerging talent and a very level playing field.

Not long till the outdoors now!! Can't wait
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Hey,

Everyone just needs to take a step back for a minute.

For the numbers we have banning anything like speedo will do more harm than good. Apart from adding additional work to the people running the day.

This is a quote from the manual for the LRP Sxx StockSpec V2

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If value #0 is chosen for Mode.2 AND Mode.3 (e.g. factory default!) the blue LED will flash in neutral trigger position to indicate that entire timing advancement is disabled for „true stock racing“ as required by certain federations!


So as long as there are no advance timing / power features used on the speedo, I don't see any issue with any driver using any speedo that they have.

They will just have to be able to show that they have no advanced features of the speedo activated.

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Sounds good to me Mick
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Can you decide now what speedos are allowed in 10.5 as I have just bought stock spec lrp to run in 10.5 .
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sorry just re read my previous post and realised its not that clear.we WILL NOT be banning any speedos.as mick posted there are quick and easy ways of telling whether speedos are set for advance timing(we will just have to do our homework before the events).i honestly dont think its going to be an issue with the group of racers we currently have in the dmcc or the lads from up north,but we will be prepared if there is any dodgy carry on.
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thanks all
Just want to be sure and not buy the wrong gear.
Just checked the speedo and there is no flashing led at factory default setting. ??
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Just want to be sure and not buy the wrong gear.
Just checked the speedo and there is no flashing led at factory default setting. ??
do you know which model speedo it is?
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Can you decide now what speedos are allowed in 10.5 as I have just bought stock spec lrp to run in 10.5 .
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If you use the speedo on setting 1-4 for the power and not 5-8 its non-timing advance. Any of the higher (5-8) settings use timing advance trickery and goes against the ethos of the stock class.
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Hi Tony
It is lrp sxx tc v1.
Factory default setting is ( 1-4-1-1- )
I`ll show it to Mick at the weekend.
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That speedo is fine.
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I think I'll run with the big boys as I have barely a 10.5 to my name (I killed 2 in Naul at Xmas!) - if we get any youngsters down, it's likely they'll be running brushless RTR B4.1s and the like, so 3300kv motors (10.5) are exactly right for clubman class.

I know a bit about Hobbywing speedos, so can advise on those. They also make a true stock speedo for just this sort of occurence, the Justock, and the best part is, it's £34 from Giantcod!

It also does well in F1s, crawlers (with outrunner motors!) and I'm sure a few other classes, so easy to find a new home once the driver graduates to mod racing.

I rather like that the RCCAOI doesn't have a homologation list, prefering the common sense "no, you'll have to take that afterburner and wheel scythes off" approach to such things. No real need when the association is relatively small.
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There are six national rounds in 2011 - 3 in 2wd and 3 in 4wd. Your best 2 results from the 3 count.

1 May - 4wd Round 1 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan
5 June - 2wd Round 1 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan
26 June - 4wd Round 2 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan
14 August - 2wd Round 2 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan
4 September - 4wd Round 3 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan
18 September - 2wd Round 3 - Griffeen Valley, Lucan

SAVE THE DATES!!!!

It costs 10 euros to join the RCCAOI, and a race fee for each day also applies - more info later.
Ok, here is some clarification for you all, with 5 and a bit weeks to go till the first 4wd national round....

Classes:
4wd Clubman - see RCCAOI rules - plus the following applies: 10.5 or greater motor only, timing advance on esc set to factory default settings.

4wd Modified - see RCCAOI rules

2wd Clubman - see RCCAOI rules - plus the following applies: 10.5 or greater motor only, timing advance on esc set to factory default settings.

2wd Modified - see RCCAOI rules

Each meeting has 4 rounds of 'round by round' qualifying - your 2 best qualifying scores are added together to give your grid position. Pole gets 100, 2nd gets 99, 3rd gets 98, 4th gets 97 etc.
There are then 2 finals for all. Winner of the A final gets 100 points, 2nd gets 99, 3rd gets 98 etc, etc.
So after qualifying and 2 finals, everybody should ahve 3 scores of which you add up your two best - this gives us the final classifiations. Maximum points available on each round is 200.

It'll be a tough championship this year - really looking forward to it.
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