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I think we moved of the subjet a bit.
Here are a few idears i have in answer to how to inprove are sport.
Why don,t we let the juniors race for free at this years regianols, even if this means putting a few quid on the seniors race fees.
Next split the championship into three like we have ie under 14s,under19s and seniors. i know this brings in extra expense but i think it will make it more attractive to the kids, after all when you are young winning somethink means so much more.
My last point may well open a few eyes but here goes.
Last year my lot went along to Dunkirk village fete where we had a great time but most inportant we met the public face to face doing what we all love racing. The intrest was amazing and we picked up 2 new junior members that are still with us now. There are many fetes out there so what i am saying how many off you are prepaired to come along and show what we do and tell them all about are sport. Remember we have trouble fitting in are regionals last year so you will have to give up some sort off racing it may class with the euros who knows but would you do it i wounder. Its ok saying come over and ask for help with your setup but will you go that extra step.
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Next split the championship into three like we have ie under 14s,under19s and seniors. i know this brings in extra expense but i think it will make it more attractive to the kids, after all when you are young winning somethink means so much more.quote]

That idea works really well in our winter series Alan, certainly a few of the lads showed a bit more desire to do well when they knew they stood a chance of being up the top of the table, and we have all seen how close the racing has been!

Fetes and public events are a great way of getting the message out there too, sadly i missed the last one due to working on saturdays but if the opportunity came up again i'd be there to fly the flag in the future!
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Until such time as R/C racing becomes mainstream TV entertainment the only way to get out there and actively encourage new members is to meet them face to face and show them what we do.

Unfortunately it seems that most of the R/C magazines (and some model shops too) are currently only catering for monster trucks and rock climbing! As Alan pointed out the fete's we've done in the past are immense fun and show the public exactly what we do - not what they think we do.

You'd be amazed that even after 20+ years of FORCC there are STILL people who live round the corner who have no idea what's going on right under their noses.

To keep our hobby alive it's not just a case of prising kids away from their consoles, it's actively encouraging them and giving them achievable targets. That's the responsibility of each and every one of us who's been around a while. Not just helping with friendly advice but also those in positions of authority to make leagues and championships a more attractive proposition by splitting the "haves" from the "have nots" - and that means experience as well as budget!
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heres a novel idea...how about a 2 day meeting at the county show? 2wd saturday and 4wd sunday??? just think of the people who see what we`d do? plus tv and media.
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I have an xbox 360 elite, havent touched it in over 3 months though
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Kent show this year is Friday 17th July to Sunday 19th July. For some reason it's always either scorching hot or stupidly wet the weekend of the show.

Nice idea Garry - might be worth following that one up......
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Theres also the model show at the hop farm some time in september, the show seems to be growing vastly year by year and theres a good array of kids and adults alike. there is normally the dover bashers club up there but that is more based on people attempting backflips and stuff and blowing there cars to bits. none of the kind of racing we have
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when parkwood was about we done school fates and stuff(gordon knows).they was brill and got a lot of interest.we had a `have ago car` and pamphlets.the county show would be ace.like a mini national!!!! oh,alan is it to late to renew my membership???
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It,s never to late to join mate, you know you are always welcome.
Thanks for the replies so far lets keep them coming maybe you guy from futher afield would like to post some idears.
We have the south east AGM coming up next week so it would be great to have some feed back on these idears so we can discuss them on your behalf.
I shall be there this year you lucky people ha ha, and will have 50 or so idears from my club members to talk about.
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It's great to see all these ideas!!!!
Here is a few thoughts.
As far as a junior championship, this already exists and has done so for years. We all race together as we have done, and all score regionals championship points, but then the juniors have a championship within the regional championship, ie scoring points towards the junior championship. This has worked well for a few years. At the end of the year the juniors have scored regional points which goes towards their drivers grade, and also the End of season finals, and if you put them in a spearate class they would not be eligable for regional points, which would mean there drivers grade could not improve, so I thinks it's best to leave it as it is, but I may be wrong, Steve Brooke, our regional rep could possibly answer this better.

I also e mailed Kent County Showgrounds last year asking if we could hold some meetings there with no reply from them, so another attempt would certainly be a great idea.

As far as Fete's go, this is another great idea!!!! If we could publicise this I am sure we could get drivers to go, but if it was the same weekend as a National or Euro's I am sure the numbers would be lower. Many of us that do these series have had to commit to them already and have to pay our entry wether we go or not.

Keep these good ideas coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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From a publicity point of view I would have to agree that fete's and shows are the only way to as Dave said "show the public what we really do and not what they think we do." That way they can see not only the fun that can be had but the age range that take part. Far more powerfull advertising than a poster I would think.

From a racing or racers view I think we lack a form of regional racing during the winter months. We have two clubs running successful winter championships and offering very different types of racing. I personally feel that if we could get together and organise say a 3 round series for next winter to run alongside the other winter series it may persuade people to travel around a bit more and i feel that would only strengthen the region as a whole. I'm sure with a bit of effort we could achieve this.

As for end of season finals I think the Southeast could well be there in much stronger numbers this year.
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Fair play Dave but im sure we can come up with somethink regards the regionals and the kids. Last year i think we had only 4 juniors who done anuff rounds to qualify for anythink in the 4wd, this is rubbish if i am going to talk my lot into coming we have got to give them somethink to aim at.How good will we look as a region if we have 20 plus under 18s in the mix.
So get thinking boys.
Regads the fetes i under stand what you say Dave but at somepoint we all need to pull in the same direction not just my boys.
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Point taken Alan, this will give us some more to discuss at the AGM.
I am confident all this discussion is helping our region, thanks guys!!!
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Righto…..deep breath, there’s been a raft of postings since I left work, hope you’re all sitting down!

Firstly, haven’t got a problem with Juniors racing for free, which would obviously be a decision for the clubs to be made at our Regional meeting. Personally agree with the idea, as I know of a couple of drivers that would greatly appreciate that sort of help! We would however have to clearly define ‘Junior’. The BRCA recognise 2 Junior classes, Under 13 and Under 16, both ages being as of the 1st January in that respective year. However if we want to go with Under 14 and Under 19 that again would be a collective decision but as DC has quite rightly pointed out they would have to be Championships within the main Championship so as not to impact on final overall positions and the following years formula’s.
This would also require a certain amount of extra effort on the part of the clubs, confirming classes with myself (something which I struggled to obtain previously) so that accurate Championship positions can be maintained.

Am a little concerned that it has not been recognised that we do currently (and have done so since the passing of former Regional Rep. John Cheeseman) a separate Junior Championship within our existing Regionals! Unfortunately (and this brings us back to the original point of this thread) many Juniors (and even more Seniors for that matter!) either only do one class (2WD is v.light in Junior numbers) or only race at their local clubs venue thereby not accruing enough points to have an impact on the Junior Championship. A certain Kyle Moon being one exception to this having finished third in the Junior 4WD Championship in 2008 and 7 places in front of his Dad!

As Alan quite rightly pointed out we only had 4 Juniors doing sufficient counting rounds in 4WD and only THREE in 2WD. It was worse still at the National Junior event, only ONE in the Under 13 category (to show what can be achieved, Jay Holmes finished on the podium both days) and TWO in the Under 16 category, in fact we had more representation in the Veterans (come on be honest there are more Over 40’s out there) THREE than either of the Junior classes!

As has been mentioned before and has been experienced by a few SE drivers in recent years there are End of Season Finals specifically for all the lower formulas, Juniors (in both age groups) and even the veterans, where the SE has the double 2008 Champion, eh DC?

Alan, applaud your (or any) clubs efforts getting our hobby out into the community, something many of us have tried to do with differing degrees of success and are continuing to do! Unfortunately, as you point out, it’s all about dates and everybody’s other commitments, whether they be to RC or not. So the bottom line is for any club in the Region (or any Region) to heavily publicise any dates such as your event that they may be involved with, using their own and other clubs websites, the popular forums, magazines and (if I ever get my PC back and fixed) the SE Regional email list that I have built and see if we can get more drivers out there.

And if anybody has got any ideas how to get local TV radio and press involved can they please share? We tried for last years EPR National and failed to get one single response, one for the new BRCA PRO me thinks!

I would think that RCC Racer magazine would also be willing to help, they have done so previously at similar events nationwide, normally supplying a quantity of back issues of magazines to be distributed, for free, amongst interested watchers. Just ask Matt! The ‘other’ magazine may only feature minority interest classes but I think you’ll find that RCC Racer continues to support off-road publicising National, Regional & Club events and off-road kit reviews. If you want your club featured or reports published it only requires a few well crafted words and in-focus pictures and I’m sure Matt would feature them in the Club Racer section? And yes I am biased!

Unfortunately the Southport National is on the weekend of the 18/19 July so no Regional anywhere that weekend I’m afraid! That’s not to say that any club/s could not approach the organisers about some form of race/demonstration but unfortunately the National competitiors would not be around.

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WOW, bet your finger hurts eh Steve!!!!

Yes any ideas on how to get the media involved would be very helpful, I have many many people to contact to try to get some coverage!!!
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Thanks Steve for such a great reply, what it shows is that we are singing from the same hymn sheet with that in mind the AGM will be great this year and trust me we will take the end of season finals buy storm this year, under 16s under13s and the vets as well move over Mr Church Alans coming ha ha.
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I personally think we need to make R/C Racing Cool or Hip Hop for the youngsters.... Not only that but as has already been mentioned by some on here, travelling is an issue. Perhaps parents don't have the time nowadays or have to work extra due to the current fanancial situations.

One thing you never see now are Race meetings at shows ???? I personally used to attend plenty of these when i was a lad, and the amount of families who used to watch was great. If you managed to get 2 racers from a show then it is an increase!!!

What about going into schools and doing some demonstrations or showing videos, handing out magazines etc......
But remember to keep it cool/hip hop..... bodyshells with DJ Ionic on it or N Dubz, Big jumps for the off road cars, a couple of drifter cars with all the neons etc.... Make it appeal to them.
(I'm not into any of the above musical artists, so please don't criticise. Just doing some research)

I applaud Mr Church for taking on the role of PRO, but i often wonder if we actually do enough to promote the hobby ???

It's not the big meetings that will bring in new Racers..... Yes they are great spectacle's and would be great on TV, which RC Racing is doing quite a good job (pretty much the same events shown in my eyes). The magazines are great and provide reports and tips etc for drivers.
I do still think we tend to focus more on the estabilished drivers though!! Take Racer Magazine for instance, for the 10th National reports they do the driver part, great idea and gives you some idea about the racers. Why not do a top driver and then a newbie.... find out what they like in R/C, etc...etc

So many ideas and im sure people have plenty more, get them down for the new PRO too look through and give him a helping hand. I do feel DC is the sort of guy who will look to improve the sport.

Anyway........
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Thanks Alan, sorry it was sooo long-winded, tried to answer as many points as poss. in one go!

Fantastic news about the End of Season Finals, Juniors & Veterans, unfortunately at least one of our Juniors is now too old (!) but I really do believe that with a little more support we (the SE) really could upset some of the established Regions and following last years close call who knows what we could do?
As for your challenge to the double 2008 Champ, this I gotta see!
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Don,t expect to much from me Steve but i have got to bring my 2 kids along to it so i might as well give the vets a go while im there plus think i have at least 2 more to come with me to take part in the vets so maybe i won,t be last, lets be honest i will be.
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Don,t expect to much from me Steve but i have got to bring my 2 kids along to it so i might as well give the vets a go while im there plus think i have at least 2 more to come with me to take part in the vets so maybe i won,t be last, lets be honest i will be.
Have faith Al, i'm sure the cat will kick some bottom!! And without doubt Kyle will better his 3rd Place this season.

Steve, can i race with the juniors this year pleeeeease!!
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