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Does the Avid slipper fit without the avid topshaft?
I'm finding my kit slipper too tight, even when the nut is hanging of the threads.
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Does the Avid slipper fit without the avid topshaft?
I'm finding my kit slipper too tight, even when the nut is hanging of the threads.
Me too. For some reason it doesn't adjust very well. I'm pretty sure that's why my idler went.

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Does the Avid slipper fit without the avid topshaft?
I'm finding my kit slipper too tight, even when the nut is hanging of the threads.

The Avid topshaft has a smaller and shorter threaded part where the Triad spring, shim and nut goes on.
The Yokomo topshaft has a too large of a diameter to use the parts included with the Triad slipper so you would have to source a different spring, shim and nut for it to work.
By looking at it the rest might work out.

But the whole point of the triad is more slipper area and a smaller softer spring.
Not sure how easy it would be to find a spring that fits the original topshaft and still being soft enough

Seeing the machined aluminum Avid topshaft only costs $20 I think it's worth it to get the slipper working as intended.......and it works brilliantly

They have also released red slipper pads to tune the slipper even more (intended for high grip astro, mod motors and trucks/SC).

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Me too. For some reason it doesn't adjust very well. I'm pretty sure that's why my idler went.

Avid slipper on order.
You will love the Triad slipper

It allows you to have it slipping and still not loose power because of glazing.
Have been butter smooth in both the B-Max2 and my AE T4.2FT

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You will love the Triad slipper

It allows you to have it slipping and still not loose power because of glazing.
Have been butter smooth in both the B-Max2 and my AE T4.2FT

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Yeah I have one on my RB6 and its great.

Thanks for all your help Bent.

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Yeah I have one on my RB6 and its great.

Thanks for all your help Bent.

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No problem

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Ordered the b max 2 mr now

which driveshaft do I need exactly to use the triad slipper? Does it make sense on a track with very low grip?

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Ordered the b max 2 mr now

which driveshaft do I need exactly to use the triad slipper? Does it make sense on a track with very low grip?

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Yes.....the Triad makes a big difference on low grip tracks.
You can easily set the slipper to have a broader working range which makes it much easier to get on the throttle out of turns

These are the parts I've used:
-AV1020-Mod Slipper set (81 & 84 Spur)
-AV1020-TOP-KYO Triad top shaft
-Kyosho 96643 Shim set



I have used 4mm of shims on the slipper side of the gear and 0.5mm on the short side.
This setup has 0 slop but still run free and cool

And it is recommended from Avid to use a small amount of clear diff grease on the gears.

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Yes.....the Triad makes a big difference on low grip tracks.
You can easily set the slipper to have a broader working range which makes it much easier to get on the throttle out of turns

These are the parts I've used:
-AV1020-Mod Slipper set (81 & 84 Spur)
-AV1020-TOP-KYO Triad top shaft
-Kyosho 96643 Shim set


I have used 4mm of shims on the slipper side of the gear and 0.5mm on the short side.
This setup has 0 slop but still run free and cool

And it is recommended from Avid to use a small amount of clear diff grease on the gears.

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Thanks again Bent!!

I really hoped that the Yokomo performs out of the box...Hopefully I do not need to upgrade lot of things....
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Hi,
are the AE front axles a direct fit?
If so, then the JC front axles for the hex conversion should fit also?
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are the AE front axles a direct fit?
If so, then the JC front axles for the hex conversion should fit also?
Cheers,
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They are not AE axles......they are Yokomo axles for imperial bearings.

The standard axles are for metric bearings (as the Yokomo uses metric hardware).

Yokomo axles for imperial bearings (AE): B2-010FI
Yokomo axles for metric bearings (kit standard): B2-010F

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Thanks again Bent!!

I really hoped that the Yokomo performs out of the box...Hopefully I do not need to upgrade lot of things....

It does work brilliantly out of the box.

But the new multi disc slippers (Avid Triad, AE VTS) does work better then the original.......the same is the case for every other buggy/SC running the 2-disc slippers.

The Yokomo slipper is no better or worse then any of its competitors 2-disc slippers.......but the new multi disc slippers are indeed better

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Old 06-06-2013
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Hi Bent!

I am currently working on the car. The kit is pretty nice!

Can you help me with the set up for a low traction track?
Can I use the standard pistons?
Which side should be on the top?


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Old 07-06-2013
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Start with kit setup and play with the rear top link, also Don't put any weight to start with, then play with the oils, outdoor ae 35wt front 27.5 wt rear.
not sure about springs though what surface are you running it on.
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Thanks

But which side of the pistons should be on the top? The flat or the round one?
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Can someone split this topic, as the title is misguiding.
The Avid Triad is a whole chapter for BMax2.
I fitted mine yesterday. Experimented a lot with shims and i think it is ok now. My only problem is that the spring is too compresed with the nut flush on the threaded part of the topshaft.
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I had this issue too with mine at the weekend. Fine for 1 qualifier and 1 final but then loosened off and destroyed itself and diff gear. Gonna try an Associated V2 slipper assembly.
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Can someone split this topic, as the title is misguiding.
The Avid Triad is a whole chapter for BMax2.
I fitted mine yesterday. Experimented a lot with shims and i think it is ok now. My only problem is that the spring is too compresed with the nut flush on the threaded part of the topshaft.
No need for experimenting, 4mm of shims towards the spur and 0.5mm the other end (used the same on all 3 of ours).

Compress the slipper spring several times using a set of needle nose pliers (or similar) and use a thin M3 locking nut

We've just come back from round #2 of the Swedish Championship series running the B-Max2 in rear motor configuration on an outdoor dirt track with loose dust/dirt.

Running the Triad slipper very loose to be able to get on the throttle very gently out of turns running a Tekin Gen2 7.5T........performed flawlessly all through free practice, timed practice, 4 qualifying rounds and 3 x B-mains

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