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cheers roger , am considering changing my futaba 3gr for a sanwa exzes , altho nothing wrong with my 3gr , but got it 2nd hand and had it 18months !! , feel like some retail thereapy is in order
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im considering getting the exzes z , ive seen some conflicting reports about what receivers work and what does'nt , can anyone confirm if the sanwa 371w will work ??
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FHSS4 is only any use to you if you have compatible Sanwa servos on this pdf
http://www.sanwa-denshi.com/rc/commo...sc_conform.pdf LRP have a helpful compatibility file too http://www.lrp.cc/en/service/who-needs-what/?file=8478 Last edited by RC Kev; 08-01-2015 at 10:08 PM. |
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Does anyone know if any very cheap receivers are compatible and available? This is only for VRC use, not proper racing.
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Hi Guys
again sorry open up an old post just wanting some help, and just to make clear, I don't want any cheap crap receiver I'm Currently using the Sanwa exzes X,,,,, in my TM2 and Evo, iv got a TM4 on its way, First 2 cars have the Revolution RX-451R Super Response Receivers in, Nice cost I need a 3rd receiver for the TM4, now iv noticed the Sanwa Exzes Z comes with the RX - 471 Airtronics 92014, receiver is there a difference in response speed from the 451R to the 471 as im always wanting to stay up to date with new spec, just not sure if the 471 is compatible with my Exzes X or should I just stick with the 451R Thanks Steve
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Hi Steve,
I can tell you that the 471 works with the Exzes X as that's what I have. In terms of response speed, I can't give you a technical answer, but even the 451R was faster than my thumbs could ever manage so I wouldn't discount it on that basis. I think the 471 has a smaller footprint, but other than that, the discernible differences are negligible. HTH
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I'm using a 481 in my 2wd now, i'd pay the extra £10 for it.
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I thought only the Z worked with the 481? Those receivers look good if they work on both??
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471's are meant to the be faster response than the 451R, but I doubt is noticeable by most. I can't feel difference between my 451R, 471 and 481.
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Cheers neal, good to know for the future! Not planning to get a Z, not enough to get me to swap for the price.
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Both X and Z can be used with pretty much all of them - possibly not the really early ones. The only advantage of 471 and above when running an X is size. Even if the receiver is "faster" it won't make any difference as the radio won't be able to transmit that fast.
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Spot on with the point about the size, additionally the 48x series offering internal antenna and a smaller (but taller) footprint over the 47x Oh new ZZ out now... sleepy Zzzz http://sanwa-denshi.com/rc/car/propo/exzes_zz.html http://sanwa-denshi.com/rc/car/propo/exzes_z.html http://sanwa-denshi.com/rc/car/propo/exzes_x.html Faster is subjective. It's latency (delay) you detect. In newer models (X and above) then have reduced latency to the point that its undetectable. I've not noticed a difference between Z and X models (when I've borrowed a Z), so they are all good. Switching to the legacy modes FHSS-2 (with RX-531, etc), again I've not done this so can not comment on how much of an improvement the newer (FHSS-3+) receivers are over the older ones. With an X, you can use upto an RX-471/RX481 FHSS-3 spec receiver. http://sanwa-denshi.com/rc/car/receiver/rx-481.html http://sanwa-denshi.com/rc/car/receiver/rx-471.html With a Z you can use upto an RX-472/RX482 FHSS-4 spec receiver. No latency/response figures are quoted to be able to compare FHSS-3 and FHSS-4. I suspect they are the exactly same, with FHSS-4 spec adding telemetry support.
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Neil, no, I meant that 472 works with the x, because I'm pretty confident that it does! I have a car sat here with a 472 in it, and its owner uses a x radio! I could dig my old X out and bind it up just to confirm, but I really can't be bothered.
The 4x2 receivers allow setting of the Sanwa esc' from the radio. Although that feature is z specific, so no benefit (other than size vs 451) with an X radio. The 471 is FHSS4, it says so on the link you helpfully put up
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The 4x2 receivers have telemetry, so data sent in two ways, not just from Tx to Rx. This send back useful data like BEC voltage, and with the sanwa speedo allows settings changes, which is a nice function. Technically in 1/10th OR, telemetry is not allowed, or wasn't last time I read the rules. Never seen it policed though, as lots use the Z. The 471/481 are FHSS-3/4 with no telemetry. They binds as FHSS-3 on the X and FHSS-4 on the Z. I was talking about the (X vs Z) transmitter protocol, not the receivers, which clearly do both :-)
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A bit off original subject but obviously telemetry only works with the Exzes Z/472/Sanwa super vortex speedo. Most if not all UK supplied Z's came with the 471 receiver, not 472. There can only be a handful of super vortex speedos in the country, so very few people will be using telemetry with their Z's. (so we aren't cheating lol)
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Good. it's undocumented by sanwa, and specs say it won't. This just reinforces my belief that fhss-4 is just an extension of fhss-3 to allow the extra telemetry data to be carried/encoded. So either the reciever is steeping down to fhss3 (472/482 receiver spec says it's fhss-4 only) or they are one and the same?
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