Carbon Top Decks & Battery Braces - **PICS ADDED** Lazer FS/FS2/FS2SP
 

Ive had made up carbon fibre top decks just like the ones Tebo and co used at the worlds. They come in 3 pieces..and are made by a reputable company ;)

These will be ideal on slippey surfaces/indoor etc

Who would be interested? I would be looking to sell at about £40 a set.

Start a list if you interested!

If your at the F2's this weekend i will have a set with me..

Nick
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Looking good! :D

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Is the car much stiffer with those?

I m interested for a set. Would you ship it overseas? Ie Vancouver canada?:woot:

Have you run them yet Nick? How do they affect the handling?

Interesting that you say they would be good on slippery surfaces, I would have thought they would be ideal for high grip surfaces...?

I could be interested.

Must agree with you there Toby , Id have thought a stiffer car would be better on high grip ?
Do look nice though.

Put me down for some Nick :thumbsup:

Not had chance to test myself yet... but my findings from using the chassis stiffner..(LAW41) it worked well indoor on smooth surfaces was the reason i said what i did.. so could work well on high grip smooth.. ive yet to find out..

When i then went outside i removed LAW41 as the car was better without it, more forgiving etc..

Tebo ive noticed has kept his on... but high grip smooth is what he runs!
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I'll take a set!

I made a 3mm thick cf top-deck for my FS2 and tried it out on our bumby astro track (green hill). The main difference I noticed was that it evened out the steering feel. On high grip my original lazer tends to over steer and flip if you push hard in the corners. With the top decks the tendency to traction roll was lower. When the track was wet and slippery the car was so nice and stable. Instead of letting go front or rear first when pushing hard, it just drifted sideways.

I made my front top-deck in one piece instead of the 2-piece design from the WC. Many drivers drilled a hole straight through both pieces and fitted a screw and nut to prevent the steering to flex too much.

I'm still waiting for mine lol........

Put me down Nick as always :thumbsup:

The original top decks handed out at the worlds were to give more side 2 side flex not less!!
The carbon used was layered forward making the car more rigid front to back but more flex side 2 side. This is why they are designed for low traction clay surface. I have tried them on various astro tracks and can honestly say you won't be using them here. If the carbon that nick has had them made out of is cross weave then you will get a totally different effect. Plus if it was less flex your after then a one piece top deck is what you need.

The amount of grip a tire can give you is limited to how it's pressed into the surface. A stiffer car with no flex will transfer all the load (via the suspension obviously) to the tires more efficiently so it will feel more direct and like it generates more initial grip.

This explains why going to a softer spring can help in controlling grip roll (so long as you don't run out of travel and the suspension goes solid of course).

It depends on the layup of the carbon, if it is unidirectional, like those used at the worlds, it will EITHER give more side-side but less longditudinal stiffness OR vice versa. I believe that the ones used at the worlds were stiffer longditudinally to improve traction.

A stiffer car is more responsive but to the track surface as well as driver inputs, that is why some people prefer the "easier" feel of a plastic chassis to a graphite one.

I will certainly be having a set of carbon top decks to go on my FS2-SP when I get that, sadly I think it'll be next year before I run 4wd in anger again though so it's going to be a while before I can feedback.

If you are willing to ship the items to belgium i would buy one!!

yes i can ship for you.. postage would be a little more though.. depending how you want it sending.
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Shipping is no problem.. see above reply..

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Ok a list..

Please add if you want a set..

Tony Parr
Ryan Lownie
Panic (proper name??)
Rob Carlin
Johan Neyens

If it makes the car stiffer, please count me in :thumbsup:

Thanks:D

hi njc11 i,ll be going to the f2 at silverstone on sunday.would it be possable to buy a set on sunday thanks simon :)

Those of you lucky enough to have some indoor racing this winter (no Ardent, no Moto Arena so no indoors for me now :'( ) these top decks are likely to be well worth the investment!

what about worksop,is that not in the middle of Moto and Ardent

Not from the south it isn,t mate :(

Been at the F2's this weekend... so sorry for no replies... Zippy.. you should have come and said hello and i could have sorted some for you!

I will get some more made up..

Please add your names to the list..

Tony Parr
Ryan Lownie
Panic (proper name??)
Rob Carlin
Johan Neyens
Zippy

As for Worksop.. i would say yes... defo help!

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When can I have mine lol..........:drool:

No mate, Ardent is about 1:45 / 2 hours north for me depending on traffic, Moto Arena about 1:00 / 1:15 east.

Also I hate Worksop with a passion, I personally can not think of a single positive feature to the place. I'm not saying that its not a well run series, it's popularity proves many must love it but for me I would rather set fire to my eyeballs than race there (it also takes 3 hours each way).

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I'll take a set
 

Add me to your list. I'll PM u my details. Thanks for doing this.

Mike Downey

Nick,

When do you want the pennies sending over to you pal :thumbsup:

Hello everyone..

Im expecting top decks any day now!

So will be in touch regarding payment!

Just in case ive forgotten anyone.. please get in touch with me so your not disapointed!

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Have you had a run out with these Nick? What changes to handling did you notice?

if you have any left for sale, I'm interested! if you are able to send to Sweden that is.. :)
send me a PM if possible! :)

Just an update folks..

Hopefully end of this week they will appear :thumbsup:

The manufacturer is very busy!

I'll be in touch wheni have them for postage details etc

In the meantime anyone else who wants a set, drop me a line..

Cheers

Nick
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Here you some pics of the Top Decks and the new anodising ive had done!

To fit the decks and keep them flat, ive added 2mm spacers under each of the 4 screws under the deck at the rear most part of the car, so its the screw fixings near each of the 4 posts used for the battery straps.

You also have to use 2, 3x3mm grub screws in each of the holes above the front and rear bearing, supporting the spur gear/slipper assembly. In the pics they are the same holes ive used to fix the spur gear protector cover. This takes the play, up and down movement you get so will prevent spur gear damage..

New R10 fitted too.. this speedo is this business! cheers to Neil @ Kyosho for sorting for me :thumbsup:

The decks where in the machine shop today.. so will hopefully get them by the end of the week :thumbsup:

looks very nice nick all ready for the indoors,im miles off you must have lots of spare time,wish i had :cry:

sweet , cant wait to get mine.:D What color is the anodizing you did? Gunmetal? bronze?

Jamie... not as much time as you think... ive not raced since the F2's!!

First outing for the FS in this guise is worksop on the 9th Oct!

Panic... Cheers for the comment :thumbsup: the colour from my anodising company is " Olive Brown " which is very similar if not the same as the new SP2WC and FS2SP due out next month

These cars will have the shock parts the same... if you notice ive done my shock parts black..

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Very nice mate, looking trick!:thumbsup:

Does look the business

Woohoo :thumbsup: