Legalise Lipos
 

BRCA AGM is coming up. How about legalising Lipos ? (Not just tenth off road either.)

there has been lots of threads and discussions on this very topic....not much point in starting a new one.

I tried to search for same but got loads of lipo stuff but none to put it to the AGM for legalising.

Hi Roger,
I have sent a proposal to Charlie Fraser, and Jonathan Clark has used the proposal to re-write the rules in the handbook in preparation.

All we need now is attendance at the AGM in order to get the votes. Im glad you are supporting them, personally I don't want to use cells again - just Lipo's now.

Are you attending the BRCA AGM?

Chris

Why ? is the AGM being held in Radcliffe ?

:eh?: No

The point is that you can sit there and say as often as you want that you want lipo to be legal, but unless people go to the AGM and more people vote for them than vote against them it's never going to happen.

If you don't go to the AGM and vote, and lipos aren't made legal you can't complain about the decision.

Well Terry, of the AGM's I have attended all the talk is about Nationals.
That, is not why I do all the running around at Bury.
That bloke that turns up to race at Bury is the bloke I do it for and he wants to run Lipo's.

If it's just club racing then there has never been anything stopping you running lipo's. The rules only apply to brca affiliated events hence why they talk about the nationals at the AGM's as they are the only events offically affected by it. (not sure if regionals are allowed to modify the rules as they see fit or not)

There is of course more to it than just "legalise them", a full set of construction rules are required regarding voltage, capacity, cell type, casing type, dimensions, safety tests etc etc... otherwise any sort of lithium ion polymer cell configuration could be used.. to do all of this is a lot of work. it is not an enviable task!

N

As has been said if someone wants to run lipos then it's up to the club to decide whether to let him, nothing to do with the BRCA rules at all which are written specifically for national meetings. It's down to the individual clubs whether they use the same rules or not.
Touring cars already use lipos in the ProStock class and the bikes have been using soft cased ones for years in their national meetings.

There's already a set of BRCA construction rules regarding lipos and even an Electric Board list of approved hard case lipos here

I ran at this years 2nd BRCA welsh regional back in june.

it was great - except that, even though I qualified 5th overall, I had to start at the back of the grid, in the lowest final, racing against the kids.

nothing wrong with that, at the end of the day we all love lapping 7 year olds (!!!!)... but it was all due to the fact I was running Lipo cells.

obviously I won the final. but I couldn't get a trophy because I was running Lipo.

I'd like to run a full national campaign next year - it's been an ambition of mine since I was 14 - but I'm buggered if I'm going to go out and buy six+ sets of expensive and outdated nimh cell packs which are useless after 40 race cycles :)

You definitely don't need that many! I've done the Nationals and Euros [6 days solid of 6 runs a day] this year, both classes, on just 3 packs of Neil's Stormforce 4500 cells. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

There are very few rules that regional championships can alter, and running non BRCA homologated cells and motors is not one of them.

G

I'll second that one!! Until I recently bought a pack of Stormforce from Neil I've been running on 3 set's of 4500 from Glyn Ward all year!

Same here. I bought 4 packs but a cell went down on one pack. So have just ended up using 2 or 3 packs at each national :thumbsup:

me too, ran 4 packs all year for both classes.

hey, with LiPo, i'd only need 1 pack:drool:

1) Those cells that destroyed themselves have effectively been banned from racing, so you wouldn't be using them.
2)As others have said you don't need 'one run' packs any more.

But if you want lipos I hope you'll be at the AGM voting for them:thumbsup:

Where and when is it?

It's on the 26th October, but unsure where.

Pretty sure it's in Stoke-on-Trent (same place as last year)

does anyone have the full address please?

Thistley Hough High School,
Newcastle Lane,
Penkhull,
Stoke-on-Trent,
ST4 5JJ.

cheers phill.

So who's coming to the AGM on sunday ? Myself and kecky will be there:D Do you have to take your brca membership card to prove you are a MEMBER ? :cry::woot:

Cant go to the AGM, but crossing all my fingers, toes, dangly bits that LiPo's are allowed in 2009 onwards.

If anybody from ellesmere port or chester needs a lift i have 3 seats left so save your fuel ;) the company is paying:woot:

I converted early as I was fed up of using voodo to make my cells work.

I initialy encounterd some resistance at my local club but after some discussion we now allow lipos and a lot of the club racers use them .

Good question, I'd say it'd worth taking with you.

Thought i would ask the question seeing i'm an AGM virgin:blush:

Does anyone know if there has been anything tabled to discuss electric 1/8th?

Pete

:o just a short 3.5hr drive for me :(

When oh when are we going to see online voting!?

You and Kecky are definately "members" :thumbsup:

Can't believe it took you 40 min to come out with that:rolleyes::p

Some of us have to work, we can't sit on oople all day :p

That's the beauty of having a 3G card in my laptop :thumbsup: sitting in knutsford services southbound at the moment waiting for tech to turn up :p

I think the reason that 'they' dont allow online voting is that there is no room for discussion or for any one to be able to put their opinions across in that fashion.

Atleast at the AGM you are all able to stand up and say your peace, and then either get shot down in a ball of flames or be responsible for some amazing new rule that is voted in :)

I am suprised nobody has asked, and nobody in attendance has updated already but here goes:

The rule on Lipo got passed by the members for use at all sanctioned events from 1st April 2008. The rule in the handbook does not need to go into detail like the proposal did and all that was changed is any mention of cells, cell type etc has been removed, and the wording changed to "Car will be driven by a nominal voltage of no more than 7.4v".

The EB has been asked to compile a list of Lipo's, which is going to be done, but firstly they will take care of the spec - which will be done to match whatever Efra decide next week at their AGM. (The BRCA & Efra should have consistency on rules like this).

The Lipo list will be made available on www.brca.org as soon as possible, and will be kept live until the cutoff for Lipo submission. So any of us can view it before making a purchase and see what the current list shows. I highly recommend anybody wanting Lipo to wait for this, and use it.

Initially we think that no current saddle packs will be made legal due to their size. This is unfortunate, but the manufacturer may already be dealing with it - like I said, watch www.brca.org. This only means for regional/national, and anybody who has already got packs will still be able to use them at club level just as they are doing now.

Chris

Damn shizzle its unfortunate!! lol
But nevertheless its a win for progression that LiPo's have been given the thumbs up :)

what's the problem with their size? that rules out most 4wd chassis straight away then unless manufacturers can get new size cells out in the next few months?

going to be a lot of pissed off trakpower owners out there!