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Chris56 21-01-2014 06:48 PM

Update - Clubman Class
 
Firstly, thanks everybody for your recent feedback and discussions on this class. These have now been considered and here is how we run this class from THIS FRIDAY (24th January):

Chassis: Primarily Mini but “moderately paced” touring cars, F1s and Mardave Mini-Stox, Hpi, Traxxas, Ftx etc welcome. No TRF MODELS ALLOWED
Bodyshell: Any
Motor: Any but 10t brushless (or 19t brushed) or slower preferred.
For F1 cars and Mardaves, minimum 20t brushed or 21t brushless allowed

Tyres: Any type of foam or rubber tyre
Electronics: Maximum of 7.2v Nimh/Nicad Batteries - Maximum of nominal 7.4v Lipo Batteries only.

Hopefully these changes are to everybody's liking. The intention is to keep this heat as a "fun", "run what ya brung" class where people get to run cool cars of their choice and the restore the "Gentlemans'" code. It should also discourage people from trying to win the heat by simply running a super-fast car (like the old Outlaw class). If your car is super-fast, fine but you won't be racing anybody!

siddus74 21-01-2014 07:54 PM

Great post, Best part about that post is "If your car is super-fast, fine but you won't be racing anybody!"

.... Love it:p

Skidd

cunawarit 21-01-2014 08:06 PM

Well, it is true :) As for the reasoning behind the silvercan change for F1s it came from TIC Racing's claim that the HPI 20T fancan is a longer lasting less overheating prone alternative to the Mardave G2. That's been my experience too :)

reg 21-01-2014 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siddus74 (Post 831686)
Great post, Best part about that post is "If your car is super-fast, fine but you won't be racing anybody!"

.... Love it:p

Skidd

Unless 3 turn up :)

Sound good,
Iv bought a 20 year old F103,ill sun it as it is and see how it goes,it says it's for a mg exterminator motor,what ever that is,

Chris56 21-01-2014 09:37 PM

Was it that Jordan per chance?

I've just change the motor for a 27T Saturn.

For my TA02 I have been able to shoe-horn a 22t pinion in to take the edge off the mad acceleration, but then limited the throttle to 80-85%, depending on how it matches up to everybody elses "Tamtubs"

reg 21-01-2014 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris56 (Post 831731)
Was it that Jordan per chance?

I've just change the motor for a 27T Saturn.

For my TA02 I have been able to shoe-horn a 22t pinion in to take the edge off the mad acceleration, but then limited the throttle to 80-85%, depending on how it matches up to everybody elses "Tamtubs"

It the green and black one,lotus ford I think it said,
I'll just throw some electrics in it if it comes before Friday and see what happens,

Chris56 21-01-2014 09:49 PM

I was watching that one too!

Did bid on a TA04 earlier but somebody had set a high maximum bid that I didn't match

siddus74 21-01-2014 09:50 PM

Let's have a picky of the F103 then Reg ... Want to run mine when the others run them.

Scott.

reg 21-01-2014 10:00 PM

I'll give it ago but I'm on my iPhone so sit tight for some edited post lol

reg 21-01-2014 10:06 PM

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Chris56 21-01-2014 10:12 PM

Nope, didn't work!

reg 21-01-2014 10:23 PM

awzzzatt :woot:

siddus74 21-01-2014 10:24 PM

cool, When are you running it? Chris when are you running yours again?

Scott

Chris56 21-01-2014 10:26 PM

Thats more like it, and yes, it was the one I was watching!

Scott - will be running mine this friday

cunawarit 21-01-2014 10:26 PM

Pretty cool :)

Chris56 21-01-2014 10:28 PM

FYI, it has the later battery cradles like mine so will take a square LIPO no problem. Might need to raise the top deck by a mm using washers, but won't need a dremel!!

reg 21-01-2014 10:30 PM

Not bad for £40 but not as sex as the one you raced last week Scott,
If it arrives before Friday then like I say I'll throws some electrics in and see what happens :woot:
I might have got the bug as I want the DTM merc now lol

cunawarit 21-01-2014 10:34 PM

What's the field going to be like? I'll be taking my Mardave with the TL01 as a backup... running lipo on the Dave, might be too light and twitchy.

Dave Dodd 21-01-2014 11:20 PM

Very nice F1, me thinks this may be a stand alone class for next winter ;)

cunawarit 21-01-2014 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Dodd (Post 831787)
Very nice F1, me thinks this may be a stand alone class for next winter ;)

As long as I can race the Mardave somewhere I don't mind ;) Nothing full contact though.

oldfoggy 21-01-2014 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Dodd (Post 831787)
Very nice F1, me thinks this may be a stand alone class for next winter ;)

Or even the last winter quarter

siddus74 22-01-2014 09:13 AM

Yay ... lets gets some numbers down and see if we can make F1 a standalone class as well as the clubman?

Scott....
Stuart....
Chris...

leedolby77 22-01-2014 09:39 AM

Lets do it! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

leedolby77 22-01-2014 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg (Post 831728)
Unless 3 turn up :)

Sound good,
Iv bought a 20 year old F103,ill sun it as it is and see how it goes,it says it's for a mg exterminator motor,what ever that is,

I have a silver can you can have

siddus74 22-01-2014 10:36 AM

My 6 wheeler has a silver can and kit gearing and the 104w Lotus has a 21.5 which is slower but more controllable ... Both have kit gearing. I have sold the f104 pro (Lewis Hamilton silver one) as it was beyond me setup wise.

I have a f104w Ferrari coming which Id like to run for the last round ;-)

Scott

cunawarit 22-01-2014 01:20 PM

I hate to ask this, but... F1 at the expense of what class?

Just to play devil's advocate, a lot of the people driving F1 are also driving Tamiya tourers, Mardaves as well as occasionally doing off-road and touring cars. That is to say the F1ers are not exclusively F1ers, but rather the sort of people that enjoy driving a variety of cars. There's a small risk that it could be a class with wildly varying numbers week to week. Needs to be discussed.

siddus74 22-01-2014 01:23 PM

Does it have to be at the expense of another class?

cunawarit 22-01-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siddus74 (Post 831915)
Does it have to be at the expense of another class?

That's another question that needs to be asked, there's only a limited amount of time at the basketball court.

Chris56 22-01-2014 02:46 PM

I don't think we need to lose a class as we can just set up a seperate championship, its just question of which class they slot in with.

cunawarit 22-01-2014 02:49 PM

Right, so they could run alongside another class and score points for the F1 trophy. Makes sense.

Chris56 22-01-2014 03:01 PM

Thats how it used to be with buggies: they would all race together but there would be seperate trophies for 2wd, 4wd (and possibly SCTs?)

cunawarit 22-01-2014 03:44 PM

Hehehe... if we do that for stock buggy it'll just be dave and me :D YAY! Second place trophy.

Chris56 22-01-2014 03:50 PM

How do you think I won the SCT class last year??!!!

siddus74 22-01-2014 04:22 PM

No, No .. I want to run clubman and F1 !!!! Put the F1's in with the faster tourers!!! :thumbsup:

Scott.

leedolby77 22-01-2014 04:44 PM

But I want to run Tourers, and F1 :p

reg 22-01-2014 04:54 PM

I wouldn't put my F1 in with them,just keep them in the clubman,with no points,maybe put an option on the booking in to select F1,mardave,TC but under the clubman heading,that way Dave could sort out the heats better(nothing wrong with the way they have been)if we start to run an F1 class only it might get so people want to run faster motors,or just end up with 3 every week,

reg 22-01-2014 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leedolby77 (Post 831853)
I have a silver can you can have


Thank you that would be kind,
I'll bring my soldering iron :)

cunawarit 22-01-2014 04:59 PM

You speak sense.

David Smeaton 22-01-2014 08:39 PM

Surely the best thing is to see if there will be enough F1 to make a heat, if there isn't then they can be combined with Clubmans class. if the F1 class has proper rules and runs competitively then it should pick up and keep the numbers.

There is no longer a national series to race this in so people will be looking for quality racing.

I think anyway.

cunawarit 22-01-2014 09:18 PM

Makes a lot of sense, Clubman is very mixed. If someday lots of F1s turn up they go together in faster heat. If another day lots of people turn up with Lunchboxes and Midnight Pumpkins they go together in a very slow heat :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg (Post 831984)
I wouldn't put my F1 in with them

I tried racing the TL01 with the Outlaws when that class existed, it mostly involved putting various broken bits of TL01 in a bin liner and packing up early. Slight exaggeration, but it did involve a tonne of breakages! Brittle old Tamiya plastic is OK at Clubman speeds, but when it gets a solid wack at 45 MPH it is gone...


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