b4 front end grip on carpet
 

im struggling for front end grip on carpet on my b4, when i turn in it jsut doesnt seem to wanna go. currently 30wt and silvers all round. runnin green shu all round

Theres your problem.

no i was havin the problem wit yellows aswell. actually found it got better with the greens

Im with Southwell on this...yellow Schumachers are the only choice IMO.

How long since you last rebuilt your diff? And is your diff smooth as a smooth thing or as sandy as a sandy thing?

Post your setup here...we should be able to get you turning soon enough.

Yellow what? Minipins? Are you cutting off rows? I don't see how you can understeer on carpet with minipins, mine always steers like a mofo. Chuck up your full setup.

this is from memory cos im at work an dont have the car.

front

30wt silvers, standard piston
inside hole on the bottom, middle on the top. camber 1deg
1 washer under the front ballstud


rear

30wt silvers, standard pistons
outside bottom, middle top. camber 1deg
shaved flat on the rear ballstud
wheelbase short, 1deg anti squat.

10.5, standard spur, 23pinion
greens with inside and outside cut off front and rear.

and i always get confused over the whole pins and spikes thing, so ill just say there the nationals and regionals nominated tires

Try outside on F arm, outside on F hubs too and 30' castor blocks.

Inside on R arm, 2' rear camber

i think ill rebuild the shocks whilst im at it. i know the diff was done not taht long ago so i know thats still smooth.

On power or off power steering?

Shumey yellow minipins are the only tyre to run on carpet

I would suggest also checking all the suspension components to make sure it is all free. Could be a bent hinge pin or something in there

Im with Cosie, run outside hole on the front wishbones

Also check to make sure the wishbones are laying level when the car is stationary with the cells in

My B4 used to drift like that for no obvious reason and with what most people would consider a standard set up. Very annoying.

I glued the servo saver up which solved the problem in an instant.

Dave,

Help me figure out my lack of on-power exit steering/grip issue on Friday please?

Your thumbs Chris :woot:

its more on power steering that i notice it. cos i can always slide it in abit through the corners. anyone ever tried the skandinavian flick into corners wit a buggy??

I'm with Medders, check your servo saver. Better still, glue it together and forget about it.

Mike,

I suffer lack of exit steering/grip which does annoy me...but initial and entry steering/grip are all fine.

I can only put it down to not enough weight over the front.

Dave, I use a pistol ;)

this has happened to me before, it was the servo saver being too loose.

I ended up buying a metal assembly as the threads in the saver kept striping

or just glue it up as sugested

Ive tried putting some weight over the front end. but it doesnt help much. ive tried putting around 40g in there as far forward as i couldnt. and its not the servo saver guys thats already done.

ah ok then, dont know then:confused:

Are you running LiPo???

Do you guys not find that glueing your servo saver fecks your servo??

And what do you glue it with?? Surely CA ould just crack??

nice picture chris, my mrs went around saying "nobjokey" for ages, not realising it was an offensive gay saying.. she thought it was a type of pants. she must have said it numerous times infront of her gay friends.

I used CA glue, i have managed to snap the actually link off that so make sure you have a spare. Decent servos shouldn't break without a saver. I even ran a cheapish one in the xx4 last year with no breakages.

sorry that was a bit off topic lol

Might have to remove that AV then, it isnt intended offensivly, maybe I just have a different meaning for the phrase!

Cant be doing with making more enemies lol

lol, didnt mean you were being offensive:) its funny, however now my post makes no sense cos u changed your picture

anyway back on topic:thumbsup:

Nope not using lipo. good old fashioned cells for me!!

Mike,

Im presuming that your an experienced driver and therefore not going into corners WAAAAY to fast?

I used to run the following in my B4:

Front
Middle on tower
Outer on arm
Outer on tower ballstud with 1mm spacer
Outer on hub
Steering knuckle in middle
Yellow minipins (outer and inner cut to suit)
Lead in nose
30' caster
0 toe
1' camber

Rear
Outer on tower
Inner on arm
Outer on hub
No ballstud washers
Std antisquat
Std rear toe
2' camber
28g lead where gearbox is

im experienced in someways :P

but nah i dont go in to fast, its just on some sections of our track im strugglin to keep it turnin in the corner. pushin it to hard to keep up with bish i think :P

wot about the shocks mate?? and how much lead in the nose an where u put it??

35wt front, 30wt rear
Blue front, silver rear
Standard pistons (2 front, 1 rear?? Cant remember)
No rebound

What about a front wing? Pro-Line of JConcepts??

i have a jconcepts on but not on the car atm. i forgot about taht. should dig that out

How much rear wing gurney are you running?

off the top my head. i think its only about 5mm i leave on there. only a little bit to hold the whole fing together

If it's high speed sweepers you're struggling on, it might be an idea to try a coulple of different rear wings. Depending on the current size of the one you're running then go a little smaller and remove the gurney.

As also mentioned above, try a front wing in combination with these rear wing changes.

At crashing and yes going into corners far to fast.

Cris I used to suffer from this with my b4 before i saw the light to deal with it persoanlly i just changed my driving a little didnt gun it out of corners as quick took a bit of a wider line into the corner. Generally just went slower though out the corner.

A

Mike, what servo are you using? have you tried a different one?

If you do glue the servo saver up, it might well be that the servo has been strained so much over a long period of time, it's lost it's torque.

Worth a try pal

usin a trusty blue bird :P yer i might invest in a new servo soon. ill try everything else first cos i do just think its the setup of the car

Cough cough

lol!

issue resolved :thumbsup: