That really good setup that everyone talks about but ive never seen.
 

I have heard loads of people talking about a setup that works pretty much anywhere on the xx4. But where can i find it. As i want a good starting setup as i need to get the xx4 dialled in for a grass track. And this is the first time ive raced it off road. And i dont have any track time before the event with it as i am getting a brushless system the friday before so i have a day and i wont have time to go down the track to get it sorted. And i havent got time to solder the bruhsed setup in either.

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The ones at helger (hobby horizon) are pretty good, silver front springs and red rears

Look on racechat, the setup is there. If you can't find it, look harder. :p

:D :D :D ;)

Im not on racechat has anyone got a link for me???

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Try this Ash.

Only change might be to drop the front oil to 35wt (Also oils should be LOSI, as AE isn't the same)

http://www.horizonhobby.co.uk/autoon...ts/exx4we1.jpg

ash also check my downloads section, in the set up sheets,told you about them before,
http://www.hobbytec.co.uk/index.php?ind=downloads
all the setup xx4 are slight changes on the std set up

Phil, do you ever run the other ackerman position on the bellcranks, what are your thoughts on it?

Have you ever tested both oils to check this Phil? I have ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

What was the diffrence G and how come you aint on MSN

And phil i run losi oil anyways.
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Id say he has, theres not a massive diffrence but you can tell back to back. ;)

Ah, but how have they been tested? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I know You got 2 idetical shocks buuil one with losi oil and one with AE oil and you used one of them losi shock matching things. Or one of them shock presu testing devises.

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the ae oil is supposed to be 2.5-5 weight lighter and attacks the seals quicker or ae seals are cack

That's a little agricultural Ash!

Don't you remember I used to work for these guys:

http://www.hydramotion.com/

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Carl, silicone orings absorbe silicone oil, simple. That's why orings swell.

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ok im not known for making sensible comments but a simple viscosity test would determing this but i have to agree with phil losi oil is better it appears to be much purer:mad:

graham i didnt even look at the website u posted so is it thixotropic or something
:D

I sold several bottles of shock oil at tiverton, truman senior was available to tell people about the 5 wt difference between losi and Ae oils, however the deciding factor on purchase was the fact that AE oils are 50p cheaper.

john

which is thicker ae or losi
;)

Or is there another option? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

So what's all the inch high private eye stuff about Northy, if you know for real why not just spill the beans, i know ae is thinner than Losi but what els is different then, i why the big secret??

So how do you know its thinner Carl? Have you measured it?

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Schumacher;)

:D :D :D :D :D

Northy is a fluid dynamics expert - no one should question him!


Leotard!

I only use the AE oils, So as long as your not using 2 different brands of oil does it really matter if they are a little bit out:o

i have always gone by this site for shock oil compaisons

http://www.twf8.ws/php/tip/shock.html

but this is only a guide and should not be treated as gospel as various factors need to be considered ie linearity of the oil between varous thicknesses and temperature

we all know northy is a master of fluids,in one form or another;)

no i havent but i know a man that has
link thanks to tyreman posted on here in another post

[url]http://www.twf8.ws/php/tip/shock.html[/ur

but as stated i want to know why your not explaning what you mean:wtf:

It doesn't really matter in this instance how they are different. It just matter that you know they are.

All the UK Losi team run Losi oil, so to run a identical set-up, you should use Losi oil...... End of!!!

I dont have a preffernce as im not that good of a driver i can tell the diffrence. So i run what i can get.

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Ash you need to stick to one brand if you can, fo instance if you have a losi 35wt and a AE 30wt you will more than likely have a very similar oil.;)

we do run Losi oil, i just wanted to know what other differences there was other than viscosity.and the fact that ae oil cost me more,when we use to buy it

Well when I tested the samples I had I found no difference between Losi and Associated oil.

It's all silicone oil, it's nothing special really.

The website in the link contradicts itself. At the top it says there is a difference between Losi and AE oils, at the bottom when they have done temperature tests the numbers look very similar to me :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

My tests were done in a temperature controlled cal lab (@25 degrees) used to calibrate viscometers with a £10k laboratory viscometer. I know what I measured, you guys think what you like. :D :D

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I never doubted you G :D

Good to hear it Jimmy, as sometimes I even doubt myself! :D :D :D :D :D

so why not post your results instead of being all secret about it,we are all interested, I'm am anyway others wise i wouldn't have asked, please tell us all what did u find in Ur tests, weight wise or other wise
Please,

I was just curious how people 'knew' they were different Carl, I'm not saying anyone else is wrong, but I know what I measured. All friendly banter :D :D

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