Thanks very much
 

A big thanks very everybody that came yesterday. Loved it. Day ran ok for a change even though we took longer than last time:confused:
The only thing I have to say is PLEASE do NOT leave before you have to MARSHAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Had a few people go before they should of done:thumbdown: Number 2 and 5 in the 4wd A main. No names but you can work it out! You should know better. Other than that everything was cool.

racing
 

i loved it to pal sorry i couldent stay to help pack up had to rush of the wife had the kids all day with the flu and i had work at 2am

I was kinda puzzled as we started earlier and everything seemed to run smoothly.... so why was it still the same finish time?

I`m not complaining just can`t figure out why?

Any road

Andy :thumbsup:

I think either the practice round needs to be removed or bring it down to three rounds of qualifying.

We finished much earlier than last time, about an hour I think.

A 12 heat schedule at a national starts at with the first car on the track at 8am sharp, finishing about 5 to 5.30 pm.

Getting a twelve heat club meeting, with doors open at 8.30, finished as soon as we did is an awesone acheivement.

I suspect with 3 rounds or no practice many drivers will stay away, defeating the object.

the fact is we didn't start the meeting till around 10 ish,thats why there seems to be a lot of wasted time getting the meeting under way, get there book in practice race job done i know its not that simple but one hour thirty Min's to get under way is mad,

As you say that's much easier said than done Carl.

The whole event is an awesome achievement

It must just be me then , As i got home at 8pm and we put the track away extremely fast too :confused:

And the truck A final didn`t finish till about 6.30pm i think

Andy

i think half the reason some marshalls left, no names mentioned,...
was usually after the a main 4wd we all go home, most forgot trucks were run after, no excuse i no, and we werent one of them buy the way,

How many minutes were there between heats yesterday?

there was 2 mins. We tried 1.5 but people could not get ready on time so we had to go to 2 mins. Yes I do agree with Carl, it is too long but when we have so many people turn up on the day we have to try and find out if anyone is not coming so we can fit them in.
Please if you can come up with any suggestions let me know. We even try and get booking in before the meeting, we come to you to collect money durring the day, how else can we save time?

I take you don't want practice then ???

How about heat list ready printed, practice starts say 9am, but its timed practice ie with transponders active. DNS's are assumed to be not present (don't forget your transponder guys!) and their slot handed over to a reserve.

The upside is no need to sign in, sort out who is here etc.

It does mean that reserves don't get a practice, and means that those filling up slots could be in wildly differing heats from their normal ability level, but needs must etc.

you could do it national style, bookin starts straight away in the mornin, practice starking at 9, and then bookin in closes at say half 9, then heat sheet up and first heat out for 10, 2mins between a race is normally good, then try and sort the finals asap so there is only say half hour between the last heat and the first final. I know im willing to help you all out if you need help, sure there would be more ppl 2

Not sure that would work, practice and not actually booking in, think practice should start at 9, during practice everyone should get booked in, successful reserves have a practice after the last heat, then on with the rounds with the computer on auto no waiting at all regardless (excusing computer problems exc).

Stu, Roger and team excellent days racing, track was cool and the day seemed to run seamlessly!!!! Nice job guys

Time between heats
 

Stu has it a bit wrong. Last time out it was as he said due to race settings on the laptop. The time between heats started when the 5 min was up so the people who started last (up to 15secs) had to finish their race. hence the shortened gap.
This weekend worked better with a different setting and the gap started after the last car finished its race, even with 1min 30sec gap there were still delays.
The reason, some people stopped racing thinking they had finished. The computer then waits the 50sec time out setting. I only noticed this a few times and blame our PA system for not being clear enough in that hall.

How many people can you get around a keyboard? Sorry but I get in a right flap at booking in and to sort out the heats takes me about an hour on Saturday night.
This week I was lucky in that the number of people not turning up equalled the number of reserves who turned up, and out of that lot only one bloke stood out as being in the wrong heat

no what i mean is it took 1.5 hrs to get under way,what im trying to say is turn up book in and pay then practise 3 or 4 minuet is more than enough for practise,

Another good meeting my thanks to all concerned. As to improving the timing. From a personal view as I have school next day run the trucks first this would then ensure enough people present to marshal.
As for the timing dont allow reserves onle run with who has entered. If anyone makes a habit of not turning up then they are disqualified for a period of time.

Looking forward to the 20th December. See you all then

Just to say I apologise for not marshalling my final, I've no valid excuse

Maybe get the heat listing sorted sat aft (if not before?? as im sure you must have a good idea on numbers maybe thurs/fri?) and publish it on here so people already know when they are on for practice... Im more than happy for you to send me the listing roger, i can then add it up on here.. typed or a pdf or something..?? Is it possible to email the heat listing to me?

Doing this, people will know when they are on and help race control get on with running practice then straight into heats without being mythered.

When the doors open and PA on, get people to register they are at the venue for the day.. So in theory heat 1,2,3 will make a point of registering when they get there ready for practice..

Hopefully if people do this, long before Heat 12 or 13 is finished we will find out who hasnt turned up.. so then reserves can be added and get in a practice before Rd1 Heat 1 starts...

Cheers

Nick
:thumbsup:

sounds like a good plan

Apology accepted.

Nicks post
 

When I got home on Saturday night I had half a dozen e-mails/oople messages..........how are you going to fit them into the right heat when the heats are already done.
On Monday morning I read more mails that had come in after I went to bed Saturday.
I think my way is best.
Re the booking in before practice ????? I still think my way is best.

so did it really take you a hour an half to do the booking in sunday morning,??
can we get practise under way while your doing that lets get things moving instead of standing around for a hour before we do anything,dont want to get into a slanging match but if worksop can get 15 heats run in the same time why cant we get 12 done

Cos worksop are the bollocks :thumbsup:

just like to say, i realy enjoyed the meeting and it was very well run, i will definetly be returning. I have to travel just over 100 miles each way and did not get home till 8:30 ish , but well worth it . bring on the next round :thumbsup:

Where did you get that idea? I didn't get there 'til about nine.
Job for you then, I'll print practice tickets. you get one when you check in and only practice if you have one. Two minutes practice (that means three or four by the time they stop when you tell 'em and get off the rostrum). That should take you, what , 24 minutes ? ..... come on do the math.

im up for refing the practise heat roger no problems mate as i have said before just ask,loved the meeting as already stateted, but heard alot of people say it was dragging on agian, and didnt like that sound of that,o we know you turned up late roger i checked your clocking in card lol:)no brew for you next time

Super organisation guys. As a newbie with 'stiff-fat-fingers', Sunday's track was a challenge, but thoroughly enjoyable.

A few suggestions:
1. Have people sign in as they arrive in the foyer - eliminating the long queues later on. Close the book at 09:00 and enter the reserves.
2. Post heat listings etc, a little further away from the rostrum so that people can read them without blocking the narrow space leading to the rostrum.
3. Position one of the loud-speakers by the rostrum so the racers can hear better what is going on.
4. Don't allow pitting beyond the rostrum. On a number of occasions I was blind-sided by people walking in front to see friends on the other side.
5. You did it very well, but keep reiterating the fact that no one should leave the rostrum before the race has finished and that no one from the next race should make a move towards the rostrum until the race has been officially finished.

could we have refs for the races?? sumat like gettin someone from the heat after yours to come up and ref a heat, then you dont have to suply them within the club, just get racers to do it. you could either ask specific ppl, or just say whoever number 3 is will be a ref for the heat before theres

i had a great time sunday, i didnt mind how long the day was because i enjoyed myself! roger and stu are doing a really good job of running the club so a big thankyou to you both,all that needs to be done is for people to do what roger and stuart constantly seemed to be asking,getting out straight after race to marshall,put cars on starting grid,no messing with warm up laps,then smashing across track to get to start in time! we all know what to do so why dont we just do it?

Who won?

me:thumbsup: ........in my dreams!,stu wood with 4wd annd colin may with 2wd i think:confused:

Its nice having the heat list up early but then what you will have is people not turning up till there heat then we dont know if there is room for reserves untill the last minute.
Dad wasnt there till about 9, so I think we did rather well!
Please if anyone else wants to run it then step forward as we will gladly let you have a go?
Also putting trucks first will get them home early but what about the people that are at the end? Bit selfish if you ask me.
What everybody is forgetting is that we are trying our best!
End of!
I dont want anymore negativity as I think we are doing a good job so only possative feed back please.

Regards Worksop, They open doors at 8 and then put the computer on auto and not stop for anyone at all! We on the other hand are not heartless and want everybody to have a good day. They also finish about the same time as we did Sunday. So if we opened earlier then we could also do that?

There is also the thing with cost of the hall, WE at Bury Metro have great prizes to give away. We have given away Kits and now Speedo combo's, Servo's etc. How many other clubs(1/10th) do this?

Remember also, If you win a class at the end of the season you get £100, 2nd gets £50 and 3rd £25. We have 3 classes running at the moment.

We are trying our best. We dont want this to end as we do enjoy it but as this is going too far now we might get peed off.

I also have no 'valid' excuse for not marshalling the final either but can we also note that there were more than just 2 4wd 'A' finalists not marshalling, just take a look at most of the finals.

I have shared my opinions about the day with Roger via e-mail and now with Stu via PM, I had major concerns in relation to the way the 4wd A Final started and the way drivers managed to get into a respectable position by track cutting, I may not have set an example with no marshalling but these drivers need to have a word with themselves also as they didn't set an example either - no names to be mentioned

Refs would be a good idea for the series although it is hard work to manage especially considering there is Roger, Stu and Nick primarily and we know from experience that asking a marshall to do it may not work as well

Constructive Critism - In relation to the track I thought it was one of the better ones with the exception of the white mats to the left hand side, I thought they were far to 'random' and possibly cost me a better qualfying position in both classes, again it's the same for everyone though.

Results are here Si.

http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net/Results/mtg22/heats.htm


Mat Dodd won 2wd.

Stu, it wasnt a criticism.. if it was an option i was willing to help :thumbsup:

As Roger has said all marshalls will be wearing hi-viz vests.. and i reckon that they should all stay at there point until relieved...?

Cheers

Nick

I'm a bit concerned about all this mention of refs, corner cutting in A finals etc. This is supposed to be a CLUB MEET. Yes a big one, yes one with series prizes but jeez guys lighten up - its not a national!

Rog, Stu and the Bury mob (not me this time though) do a sterling job organising this to be a FUN event, and its become big because of the atmosphere and the awesome track, but it is intended to be the winter indoors retreat for the Bury Metro outdoors club, when Goshen is too wet/cold to use (so like in July!).
It isn't meant to be a national so don't expect it to run like one.