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losixxx 28-05-2007 08:12 AM

rearranged kiddy regional
 
so looking at the calender there seems to only 4 possible date's to reschedule the meeting

saturday 16th june (2wd reg at kiddy on the sunday, also bank holiday)

sunday 3rd june

sunday 1st july

sunday 22nd july

my personel preference would be the 16th june, im already racing on the sunday and any other date would loose me another weekend and with only a few weekends off during the season i don't really want to loose one of the few i have. plus it might help the club out with only having to set-up the site once.
i know its going to be difficult to accomodate everyone. the chance's are a few people arnt going to be able to make which ever date is chosen, also we have to bear in mind which date's the club official's are available for!

first choice should read 16th june not 26th may, cheers dave

please only people racing the event to vote, please post why you've voted for the date you have!

Bathy 28-05-2007 08:27 AM

You do know its the 28th of May today yeah?

tyreman 28-05-2007 08:48 AM

I voted to run on th 16th & 17th of June, as it would be good to see if running both classes on one weekend would work in our region.

_JP_ 28-05-2007 09:02 AM

I can do any date, as Bri says a weekend meet would be good, but what about the people who travel along way will they be able to camp, would they want to camp

just a thought.

ashleyb4 28-05-2007 09:10 AM

Yea im with you brian i like the idea of a two day meeting, and the weekend of kiddy 2wd regional is perfect it gives people pleanty of time to get sorted and i also think its a possability for next year to, to introduce 2 day regionals. And it also bring's some fun back into racing as people will stay over night so people will socialise instead of leaving the second they finish there final. But the problem may come where some track wont have anywhere for people to stay for example Oswestry is fine and kiddy is fine but it may be a problem at a diffrent track.

losixxx 28-05-2007 09:10 AM

we've camped there before on a saturday night before a regional so can't see that being a problem.

andy reeves 28-05-2007 09:53 AM

I've voted for the saturday before the 2wd regional. I am not able to do the 2wd regional but i am advailable to race on the saturday. This has got to be easier for the club imo as it does mean they have only got to get the track ready now for one weekend. This is a difficult situation for some people but i don't think that we wil now be able to get a solution that will suit everyone.

Doomanic 28-05-2007 10:00 AM

I haven't voted as it doesn't matter to me when it is, although I would prefer that it is on a Sunday.

22nd July clashes with the Euro's, so I doubt that date will be considered.

How about the 9th of September?

_sleigh_ 28-05-2007 10:33 AM

I am currently in negociations regarding the re-scheduled date, and will post details ASAP.

It would still be very good if Mid-West drivers could give their views on the above dates.

As Domonic says, the July 22nd date is ruled out because of the Euro's in Finland.

GRIFF55 28-05-2007 10:43 AM

I would be able to race on any sunday, but the sat is a no go, as i run a holiday park and sat is changeover day!!!! Still a struggle for sundays, even the ones where you waste a day traveling for it to be called off!!!
SUDAYS all the way;)

jasonrcb 28-05-2007 10:47 AM

saturdays are near impossible for me purely on business and financial reasons, so if its saturday that we race then it will have to be a no choice round that i will have to drop

GRIFF55 28-05-2007 10:47 AM

CAN'T IT BE ARRANGED FOR THE END OF THE SEASON, AS IT IS AN ALLWEATHER TRACK!!!!!!
No other bank hols now until the end of august(otherwise my business is down the pan on bookings!)

Jonny_H 28-05-2007 11:09 AM

16th of June then, as the 22nd's out, and I can't do either of the others!

ashleyb4 28-05-2007 12:40 PM

Its not an all weather track because if it was we wouldnt be in this situation cus the meeting would have been run.

A

strobe 28-05-2007 01:34 PM

I have voted for the 16th June. Would be ace to have a Mid-West weekend regional event.
Doubt it will happen as quite a few racers work on Sats and find it hard to get time off.

tonymon 28-05-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 41664)
Its not an all weather track because if it was we wouldnt be in this situation cus the meeting would have been run.

A

Its an all weather track in the sense that it can be run when it is raining as the track does not cut up and is safe to walk on and race on, unlike the standard grass track. the situation is mainly due to the standing water on the track.

the weekend race meeting would be great, but i already have commitments that weekend, cant even race the sunday :(

DaveG28 28-05-2007 02:18 PM

oops, vote again?
 
Hi,

Have voted for the saturday before the 2wd,but to be honest could make the 1st of July just as easily, maybe it would be best to make it the sunday so more people can make it?

As much as it might be an advantage for me, I don't want to end up higher overall just from getting a good scoring round because less people are there!

matdodd 28-05-2007 03:28 PM

I think it needs to be a sunday, whatever date that is :confused: as 2 full weekends in a row is a bit much for most people who are at Bury for the national!

bert digler 28-05-2007 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _sleigh_ (Post 41637)
I am currently in negociations regarding the re-scheduled date, and will post details ASAP.

It would still be very good if Mid-West drivers could give their views on the above dates.

As Domonic says, the July 22nd date is ruled out because of the Euro's in Finland.

whos going
:D

bert digler 28-05-2007 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matdodd (Post 41699)
I think it needs to be a sunday, whatever date that is :confused: as 2 full weekends in a row is a bit much for most people who are at Bury for the national!

i must admit my missus will go up the wall:p

ashleyb4 28-05-2007 04:41 PM

Nah two day meeting would be ace come on where is your sence of adventure. These days people seem to have been chickening out of stuff like people saying im not racing if its raining???? Get on with it. It all part of the fun.

A

matdodd 28-05-2007 04:50 PM

:eh?:

When you work 50+ hours a week Ash and have bills to pay you might get why people dont want to race 2 full weekends in a row!
If you want to pay for my tyres etc to do 2 days at kiddy & stay over then im well up for it :cool:

jasonrcb 28-05-2007 04:57 PM

running my own businesses i find it hard enough to make enough time for racing as it is hence why i dont do nationals as the money i would lose and the effect on my business would not justify me racing at all thats why the regionals being on a sunday makes life easier for me.. and look at all the people who have family commitments and mortgages to pay constant 2 day meetings would be impossible and my opinion this sport would suffer at a time when it looks to me that off road is on climb with more people coming back into racing

ashleyb4 28-05-2007 05:13 PM

I earn 30 pound a week the week between the two weekends racing is the buisiest week of my GCSE exam period. And im totally up for it.

But i do understand you matt Its not an ideal situation we are in, it would be good if it was slightly later but we just have to get on with it. Or make a desition to have iton a sunday later in the year.

And sorry i wasnt aimming my last comment at you its just in general. As i have noticed that alot of people have chickened outof racing in the rain for example only the few people who turned up to kiddy.

I just love doing stuff like camping out over night. And staying away from home for a few days just to get away from the rat run. Thats why im just so up for it. And i love racing. Also i cant wait to race the xx4 around kiddy so i want there regional as soon as possible lol:D

A

Mossy 28-05-2007 05:18 PM

I agree with Dodd. Needs to be a Sunday later in the year to give people to best chance of rearranging their schedules to accomodate.

GRIFF55 28-05-2007 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 41713)
Nah two day meeting would be ace come on where is your sence of adventure. These days people seem to have been chickening out of stuff like people saying im not racing if its raining???? Get on with it. It all part of the fun.

A

If this the reason it was cancelled? I was still traveling, so missed the discusion by the rostrum.
Why was it cancelled, as there were only a few puddles which could have been brushed off and the light rain?
Can someone clear this up for me please.
Many Thanks also to Phil for his apologies as i was leaving:)

losixxx 28-05-2007 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mossy (Post 41725)
I agree with Dodd. Needs to be a Sunday later in the year to give people to best chance of rearranging their schedules to accomodate.

not according to the poll. not everyone is going to be happy with the date its run.

Doomanic 28-05-2007 05:37 PM

With over 60 entries originally and less than 30 votes I can't see much notice being taken of the poll.

So far, it seems that some think it will be cool/exciting to hold a two day regional, but I think it is too soon for many to get organised.

How about running it on the same day as the 2WD meeting?
Most people will be trackside anyway and we manage to run 12 heats at a national, why not a regional?

bert digler 28-05-2007 05:37 PM

:D :D
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mossy (Post 41725)
I agree with Dodd. Needs to be a Sunday later in the year to give people to best chance of rearranging their schedules to accomodate.

toys r us should close for the day:D

losixxx 28-05-2007 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRIFF55 (Post 41728)
If this the reason it was cancelled? I was still traveling, so missed the discusion by the rostrum.
Why was it cancelled, as there were only a few puddles which could have been brushed off and the light rain?
Can someone clear this up for me please.
Many Thanks also to Phil for his apologies as i was leaving:)


at the time it was cancelled the track was driveable, however the forecast was for heavy rain all day, getting very heavy around midday. we would have possibly got 1 full round maybe 2 in before the track would have been in the same state as the national.
plus you also have to look at health and safety of the marshall's on wet astro turf!!

losixxx 28-05-2007 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doomanic (Post 41730)
With over 60 entries originally and less than 30 votes I can't see much notice being taken of the poll.

So far, it seems that some think it will be cool/exciting to hold a two day regional, but I think it is too soon for many to get organised.

How about running it on the same day as the 2WD meeting?
Most people will be trackside anyway and we manage to run 12 heats at a national, why not a regional?

think a 40% reply in 9 hours is pretty good really!
think you would get just as many people running if it was on the saturday as a rescheduled sunday. i for 1 would find it hard to rearrange a free weekend were as to include a saturday were im already racing sunday is easier for me, but hey i did say no everybody would be happy with what ever the outcome
to run them both on the same day is daft idea!!
most people just don't have the cell's or time to keep 2 car's in 2 heats per round!

IceMike 28-05-2007 06:05 PM

i understand that it would be difficult for most ppl to get time off. but wouldnt it be better to only have to travel there once more than over an over. im up for a 2day even. :p

grindog 28-05-2007 07:31 PM

i wont be able to race the saturday. Work just dont understand i have a life outside of the damn place

Gaz_Stanton 28-05-2007 07:55 PM

Tricky one this. I personally would like to see the regionals as 5 x 2 day events. I would much prefer 5 full weekends of racing and 5 weekends of no racing than 10 weekends of just Sundays. (i'm sure i would have done the whole series this year rather than a just a few if that was the case) The way things have worked out it would be a good chance to try out a 2 day event at Kiddy. Would be good. :cool:

However, it was decided at the start of the year that this series would be run on Sundays so people have planned around that and to run a round on a Saturday at quite short notice would be unfair on them.

What is clear is that any re-arrangement will NOT please everyone. (indeed it may be that the only 'fair' way to do it is to not reschedule at all...).
To put up a poll with 'possible, maybe' dates was not a clever thing to do. (especially with the wrong dates to confuse it even more!... :rolleyes: )
What is needed now is to cut the speculation and let the club work with the regional rep to define which options of rescheduling, if any, are actually feasible when considering all factors. I have faith that the result of this will be communicated to us all promptly and any input sought then, if required.

losixxx 28-05-2007 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaz_Stanton (Post 41746)

However, it was decided at the start of the year that this series would be run on Sundays so people have planned around that and to run a round on a Saturday at quite short notice would be unfair on them.

so would running the meeting on say a day when someone can't make it that turned up on the orig day, but as both you and i have said not everyone is going to be happy


To put up a poll with 'possible, maybe' dates was not a clever thing to do. (especially with the wrong dates to confuse it even more!... :rolleyes: )
.

thats your opinion gaz and i have mine!
i think it was a good idea, it give's the organiser's an idea of what people would like to happen, weather it does have any impact on the date who now's, but he isnt this a forum designed for think's like this???
and sorry we can't all be perfect can we!

tyreman 28-05-2007 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doomanic (Post 41730)
With over 60 entries originally and less than 30 votes I can't see much notice being taken of the poll.

So far, it seems that some think it will be cool/exciting to hold a two day regional, but I think it is too soon for many to get organised.

How about running it on the same day as the 2WD meeting?
Most people will be trackside anyway and we manage to run 12 heats at a national, why not a regional?


Dom at the moment we are getting over 60 entries per class, so it would end up being 14 heats of qualifying, then taking into consideration 2 lots of 3 leg A finals, you would end up running 20 finals.:wtf:

We finish late enough on the Saturday at nationals (about 1915 generally) so with what your proposing we would finish at about 2030, then you have to consider the amount of traveling for people need to get home.
Like Andy who came up from Tenby (4.5 hours I think he said) this would probably make the meeting unfeasble for him.

I personally think the only Sunday you could re-run the meeting on, would be 1st July as it is the only weekend free, as June 3rd is just too soon.

Like Phil said 22nd and 29th July are a no go as quite a few people will be in Finland at the euro's, and I read somewhere about September 9th being a posibility, but surely you couldn't run a regional AFTER the F2's:confused:
as the series would surley needed to have been completed before we go to Silverstone.

GRIFF55 28-05-2007 09:23 PM

3.5 hrs Bri, but i did have to stop cos i had a few too many shandys' the night b4:D
Left home 4ish

Body Paint 28-05-2007 10:21 PM

I don't see the 3rd of June being to soon if the decission is made quickly.

grindog 28-05-2007 10:29 PM

i am up for the 3rd, it clashes with the BCL but the 8 or so electric cars that have been there, shouldn't matter too much!

Wraggy 29-05-2007 08:19 AM

any sunday would be best for me as making it a weekend event i would lose to much money as i work sat nights ...
i know its what happens at nationals but i cant do much about that so have to lose out on earning money due to staying over ...


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