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kentech 04-11-2010 08:30 AM

Avante returns in February 2011
 
Tamiya is proud to announce the re-release of the legendary racing buggy Avante. Keep watching this page for the latest updates regarding this exciting product!

http://www.tamiya.com/english/e-home.htm

http://hotrc.jp/sites/default/files/...comingsoon.jpg

Fredrik Emilsson 04-11-2010 09:09 AM

The best looking buggy of all times!
Best re-re ever.

Great news!:)

stefke 04-11-2010 09:23 AM

Where can I pre-order !!!!!!!!!! :drool:

I hope it's not the Avante 2001.

simoncrabb 04-11-2010 09:26 AM

Oooh, a re-release? All those lovely rose joints.

Yes please.

SHY 04-11-2010 10:02 AM

My god! Please let it be the original crazy version from 1988, and not the 2001!!! :wub:wub:wub

Really hope the Hilux or Blazing Blazer is up for a remake as well!!!

muratti 04-11-2010 10:37 AM

My friend who has about 15 Avantes plus hundreds of spares at home won´t be much amused. Thank god i collect the Egress, but if they do it the same as the original, parts from the Egress will still loose worth!:cry:

area52 04-11-2010 11:20 AM

Fingers crossed it's the REAL Avante and not just a 're-release' as they did with the Holiday Buggy ... :cry:

Mash Potato 04-11-2010 11:26 AM

I'd better start saving the pennies, I want one of these. In my opinion the best looking RC car ever.

Dyna 04-11-2010 12:04 PM

Good for Tamiya :)

Ive got a few Avante's & Egress' myself but im more than happy for them to re-re it - it was a hell of a bit of engineering in the old days ( even if it was never really any good on the track ) and with rough original examples commanding around a couple of hundred quid these days people should be able to buy a new one for hopefully not that much more... :woot:

Although i wouldnt be suprised if there would be a few changes - those bloody 'orrible made-of-cheese metal front uprights for one ! They generally lasted as long as it took for you to hit something harder than a large blade of grass... And hopefully the rose joints would be made to tighter tolerances, shock towers beefed up a little etc etc

Enough changes to make it reliable as a fun buggy but not to lose too much of the original specification. That would be perfect :)

RogerM 04-11-2010 12:19 PM

I bet this will sell like crazy whichever version it is.

Personally I'd prefer to see a 2001 esq model that people could actually use without fear!

seankyew 04-11-2010 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muratti (Post 429515)
My friend who has about 15 Avantes plus hundreds of spares at home won´t be much amused. Thank god i collect the Egress, but if they do it the same as the original, parts from the Egress will still loose worth!:cry:

Tamiya has done dual re-releases in the past:

Grasshopper and Hornet
Frog and Brat
Rough rider and Sand Scorcher

so there might be something out after the Avante..

muratti 04-11-2010 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seankyew (Post 429595)
Tamiya has done dual re-releases in the past:

Grasshopper and Hornet
Frog and Brat
Rough rider and Sand Scorcher

so there might be something out after the Avante..

Bad thoughts..... who wants Egress spares NIP? :lol:

Sebastian 04-11-2010 03:08 PM

Looks like it's a REAL Avante!?

Clicky

samd 04-11-2010 04:55 PM

460 euro!

Rich D 04-11-2010 05:44 PM

I already got bitten once when they re re the Sand Scorcher so i have just sold my Mk1 Avante today for £500 before its worth sod all too.

liam 04-11-2010 07:48 PM

At least I know what ill be spending my tax rebate on :D

Nige 04-11-2010 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich D (Post 429682)
I already got bitten once when they re re the Sand Scorcher so i have just sold my Mk1 Avante today for £500 before its worth sod all too.


Did the buyer know about today's annoucement, if not they're in for a shock!!! :lol:

Rich D 04-11-2010 07:56 PM

I dont know, theres enough interest in them to of sold it either way for similar money, theres a couple on Ebay at the minute over £800 and not even new built. They havent sold however, but pre re re annnouncement it was worth £600 + :)

The prices got out of hand, we are all bloody mad :lol:

liam 04-11-2010 08:02 PM

A nice form of revenge for the greedy buggers!

I wonder if it will have a slipper?

Sebastian 05-11-2010 11:11 AM

It's the REAL one!!!

See here!

:woot:

stefke 05-11-2010 12:35 PM

And with the mighty Technigold motor !!!

kentech 05-11-2010 01:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGmE17N-NLU

TRF_AK 05-11-2010 03:20 PM

Sorry, but those pictures are not of the 2011 Avante. The new one will feature aluminum front uprights, new shocks, a gold colored motor, and carbon fiber decks and shock towers instead of FRP.

Si Coe 05-11-2010 04:29 PM

Interesting, but I want to know when they plan to re-re the other classic Tamiya that still commands totally stupid prices on ebay - the 959. Unlike the Avante, that was not only an amazing piece of engineering, but it actually worked too.

davidmog99 05-11-2010 04:54 PM

Racing?
 
Did the Avante have any racing success?
I spent ages staring at it in the tamiya catalogue as a child.
I was racing in wrexham at the time, the first week they came out all the regular a finalists had them. The next week they were back to using their optima mids an cats! This was on an undulating tarmac track with no jumnps at all.
I will be buying one to have a try at racing anyway. Anyone tried an original with brushless?:lol:

muratti 05-11-2010 07:00 PM

A friend of mine raced the Avante2001 brushless with a 5.5 turn motor i think. Very fast but due to the lack of a slipper it´s a matter of time until the gears are completely worn. Not recommended!

Welshy40 05-11-2010 07:41 PM

I had the original and the wheels looked stunning and were the only item that didn't break easily and the car was as fragile as china. Explains why that video was on sand as it wouldn't break on a surface like that. Bumper wasnt up to the job - too flexible, gearbox gears didnt last long as was basically rubbish. If its the same as the original then a waste of money.

qatmix 06-11-2010 07:41 AM

If it lasted a race without a wheel falling off it was a pleasent surprise. The suspension was unable to cope with grassy off road tracks, and every time it was airborne you just winced hoping it would survive.

As far as I remember it was a flop sales wise, probably that's why it has become collectable.

Looked Pretty though so it's a nice one for the shelf.

It would have been nice if tamiya based a new avante on the 502.

Fredrik Emilsson 06-11-2010 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidmog99 (Post 429965)
Did the Avante have any racing success?

From TRF site:
"In 1988 TRF entered the Avante into the JMRCA Championships in Japan, the equivalent caliber of race as the U.S. ROAR Nationals. This move proved to be a great opportunity as this Japanese National Championship resulted in getting TRF ready for its first appearance at the 1/10 Electric IFMAR (International Federation of Model Auto Racing) World Championships. Tamiya ended up finishing 7th overall in its first international competition and thusly established the current TRF style of using information gathered from these races to better develop radio control products."

HenrikW 06-11-2010 08:26 AM

:)
 
I'm gonna get one if it stays relatively true to the original, even though I like the Egress look better :)
It's just one of thoes cars most of us dreamt about ages ago but could not afford.
Going to love the build, the first drive and the look of it on the shelf ages after lol.

MRD 06-11-2010 10:22 AM

My dad had a Vanquish in the late 80's and it was strong even tho it was based on the Avante. Must have been all that plastic :woot:. If that comes out too I'd love to get one again.

stefke 06-11-2010 11:18 AM

I started driving RC cars (not racing yet) about the same time the Avante hit the shelves. It was too expensive for me so I settled with a monster beetle, but I always thought the Avante was the nicest looking RC racer ever.
A few years later, the Egress was the car to have. (Over here, the local shops mostly carried Tamiya and nothing else. Associated, Schumacher, ... were as rare as a white elephants). I wanted to try some local races but I was still not able to afford an Egress so I settled with the then brand new Manta Ray, hopped up with ball diffs and hopup shocks.

The biggest shock to the local racing community was that my cheap plastic Manta Ray absolutely destroyed the Egresses, Vanquishes and other Avante deratives on the track.

I've read an interesting theory somewhere where they say that on modern (= smooth) tracks, the Avante family would do a lot better

Pablo668 06-11-2010 11:43 AM

Ok, just read that report from the Area52 link in a previous post.

it seems that most of the design elements of the vintage buggy are carried over into the 12th century.

I didn't know they were making buggies back then.

Yay it is forsooth as good as ane olde buggee one could finde in ye buggee shoppe.

area52 06-11-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo668 (Post 430146)
it seems that most of the design elements of the vintage buggy are carried over into the 12th century.

I didn't know they were making buggies back then.

Woops! :blush:

Edited now! :lol:

Pablo668 07-11-2010 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by area52 (Post 430213)
Woops! :blush:

Edited now! :lol:

Haha, yeah I wasn't trying to be too much of a smartarse there.

Nice site btw.

area52 07-11-2010 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo668 (Post 430371)
Haha, yeah I wasn't trying to be too much of a smartarse there.

No worries. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo668 (Post 430371)
Nice site btw.

Thanks mate. :)

Stretch 07-11-2010 03:59 PM

Having raced one of the original ones, I found that I needed a second one just to have sufficient spare parts. The shocks used to jam if it was run in dusty conditions, and there was a huge amount of slop in all those rose joints (both on the ball/cup, and on the thread). Indoors on carpet the handling was excellent, provided you got it straight before accelerating hard (if you didn't, the inside front wheel wound start to spin and then you'd lose all drive).

Looked wonderful though. :)

area52 08-11-2010 10:54 AM

We found a recording of the 'Presentation' which took place last Friday. Click here for the update.

liam 09-11-2010 08:26 PM

i found it funny yet quite symbolic of the avante that in the vid the wheel fell off within 3 minutes! :lol:

Wont stop me from having one tho:p

kentech 12-11-2010 09:16 AM

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/cms/news...vante2011.html


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