Summer Series / clashes discussion
 

Great stuff, some dates for the diary :thumbsup:

Is the series sponsored? :confused:

Can't make a single one this year as they either clash or i'm working.

Glad the dates have been confirmed - already added to my calendar!!

Is there going to be a raffle again, just love a raffle!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Gutted mate, think i can make 3

Were members consulted over date's as it appears that the 1/8th race calender was not viewed or considered, there are quite a few members now who do 1/8th as well and its a shame that they will not be able to support these meetings.
I no that the calender is rather full and it may be difficult to find gaps as there are limited Sunday's in a month (which is a shame).
Perhaps a review or consultation for next year on how we can try to accomadate more of the club members to attend these events.

Tony and others:

I understand your frustration!!!!!!

But Ill tell you what! if everyone supplies Rob their "working schedules, holidays, other racing classes, family commitments, weddings" etc we can create a plan of meetings that won't meet anyones needs as we would not beable to deliver any meeting at all. Need I say anymore??????

However I did:

Basically our committee is made up of 1/10th racers who support there local club week in week out. We do our best when considering dates and clashes with other formats and our members requests.

I did'nt see an email come my way from other clubs advising there dates and so forth?

These dates were published before other club meetings also not all publishing all their dates as well. Therefore why should we wait to publish ours dates to meet everyone else’s needs? If there was better collaboration between clubs this may have been improved.

Maybe a gate keeper of all dates could be managed next year and then planning will be more appropriate to all.

I appreciated the work Rob has done to find these dates with so much to consider. All the Committee were communicated these dates before they were published and were agreed.

Sorry this does not meet everyones expectation, but I’m sure this will not prove an issue with increasing numbers to the club over the all meetings going forwards.


Steve

Dates were set trying to spread them evenly across the 6 months.
Have avoided Mid South electric regionals and attempted to get SE regional dates but they were not available when we wanted to publish.
E-mailed Clanfield 1/8th club but no response and no dates on website.
Checked Slough (Remote World) 1/8th website and attempted to avoid their summer series – we have one clash with their summer series.

So yes, we did consider our members who race 1/8th and those who might be competing in electrc regionals but I cannot find weekends across the summer where there are absolutely no clashing meetings with other clubs or scales.

I can do little about peoples work commitments.

I think 2 ½ months before the first event is reasonable notice. If you are choosing to not attend because you are racing elsewhere then you are making a positive decision to race there, you are not being prevented from racing at TORCH.

Rob

Thanks Rob, i think you have put that one to bed. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Good job on checking with the other clubs/regions.

Looking forward to the summer

Matt

Are they available now?

Hi Neil

No, I have no further update to the replies in the SE Regional section on here. Sure they will publish as soon as they can confirm with the clubs.

Cheers

Rob

Steve - "Sorry this does not meet everyones expectation, but I’m sure this will not prove an issue with increasing numbers to the club over the all meetings going forwards." I think that is a little harsh and comes accross as we will increase numbers so does not matter if you come or not.

Rob - I think you have done a great job and you are both right that regular members should be given priority.

I think Tonys point was that you have quite a few 8th scale racers that would want to race so would of been good if we were asked if there were any specific dates that could not be made. It is a shame if the response is "you are not needed". I am long standing member of the club and only want the best for it

Dave

My point being that, the dates from our local 1/8th circuit were not available at the time and we planned our dates without that consideration.

However fair point Dave, give me and Rob a solution to this issue?

Needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few :lol:

The 1/8th drivers im aware race regulary at our track:

Tony Scott - Member
Cammers - Member
Dave Obrien - Member

Others who come now and then:

James Kerr
Hollyoak
John - Member
Grant
Jon wolfe
Crouch - Member

Its clear from this thread that some drivers chosen class is 1/8th and their second class and 1/10th.

The choice is yours where u wish to race at the end of the day and I would always prefer everyone being able to come to Torch!

Myself and Mike missed many opportunities last year with racing away and doing what we so wanted to do. But we put the club first and gave it our all over the Sumer and Winter to get where we are now.

I club is very relaxed and non threatening to other clubs. We only want to secure a more exciting future and maintain what the clubs culture as it has been for many years.

The way this thread has developed is agaisnt the principle the club was founded.

Lets keep to more local and less critical.

Steve

Steve, that was very harsh and rude, I stated that it would be good idea to consult for NEXT year not to ammend this calender.
I am a member of TORCH.
I was not rude in my statement just trying to highlight that some of us do more than just 1/10th racing and support other clubs as well.
You or any other commitee member only have to ask and i could of supplied you with dates for the other 1/8th meetings that some TORCH members will be attending, i know it's difficult to accomadate all members but it was only a suggestion to help benifit all clubs.

Sometimes something has got to give........

Time maybe to decide what class is more important to you, you cant do it all as my old gran used to say....

Looking forward to racing in some of the summer series :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Steve i'll have a chat to you on Sunday if you want. I don't think it is doing the club any good discussing on an open forum.

I will chip in my .2 cents

My main class is 1/8th Rallycross.
I do 4WD 1/10th as some off weekend racing, or when I feel like it.
Its a shame a fair few of the dates clash with 1/8th scale meetings, but its always going to happen.

It's annoying that I will only be able to make a few of the meeting's but to me, its not my main class. So I cant complain, and I appreciate it's the 1/10th guys it suits more. Hopefully something can be worked out, dates wise for next series or so on. But I look forward to it.

Ok so now we are getting somewhere. The proposal seems to be that in future we’ll ask some of the 1/8th drivers when they have any spare weekends over the summer and plan things around them so they can “support” the club by attending some of the summer series meetings for us.

Let’s have a proposal put forward at the next AGM to that effective – the proposer and seconder will need to attend. Perhaps someone who also drives both 1/8th and 1/10th could volunteer to take over one of the committee posts in order that their views are heard? Don’t think it is going to be difficult to find a vacant post.

I have explained how I set the dates and if I am in this position next year (highly unlikely as this is quickly becoming a non fun activity trying to help arrange race meetings for others to turn up and race at) then I will probably do it on a very similar basis – if the local 1/8th track has published their dates by then I will definitely take them into consideration just as I hope they might do the same when they set their dates this year.

I repeat again, the published 1/8th dates were taken into account when these dates were set. They have not been set for the benefit of electric drivers.

I’d really like to keep this thread clear for information and updates for this years series. Mike – is it possible please to move the discussion around dates to another thread such as the comments/recommendations thread?

Rob

Re the questions about sponsorship and raffle, your questions are not being ignored, I just do not know answers at moment.

We have a committee meeting start of March and will try and sort out by then at latest.

Cheers

Rob

think this discussion is geting a bit heated rob spent alot of time puting these dates together he looked into finding out the 1/8 dates but had no joy cant please everyone i do mini raceing all over the country and 2 of the dates clash with mine but i cant do any thing about it just have 2 do 1 or the other we all have busy lifes and it is impossible to keep everyone happy we cant do alot about this years dates so next year if any one has got any info on dates then let the club know and we will try 2 work round them :thumbsup:

I would like to add that Steve, Mike Rob have done all they can to accommodate people and always have. As said before, we will never please everyone. I think people are forgeting that racing is also about having fun whatever class or track or club you are at. Most people will never be able to make all the dates for lots of reasons. At the end of the day its yours choice what club you are racing at each week so stop moaning and make that choice. HAPPY RACING :)

By The way Martin Nice Spray Jobs:p:p:p:p:p

This is the point i think that is trying to be put accross.

Quite a few of your regulars are also 1/8th drivers who have actively encouraged other 1/8th drivers to invest in 1/10th kit so they can support TORCH.

It is more likely IMO that those existing 1/8th drivers will turn up for an all day event than 1/10th drivers that are not going to a regional who have never been before.

All we want is for the club to get as many people turning up as possible. At no point do i expect the calander to be arranged around my diary or choices, but it may of been benificial to of spoken with some of the 8th drivers first to maximise numbers and profit to the club.

To say it doesn't matter because numbers are on the up anyway is not the right road to go down.

Maybe Robs idea of one of the 8th drivers being on the comittee should be persued.

Seems despite differing views we have come to same conclusion - are you volunteering as Tony did not seem keen?

We can hold a hold an EGM at the start of a sunday meeting and vote you on?

Rob

ummmm, hadn't really thought about it. Happy to talk about what would be involved and have a good think. Just depends how much you would need me at TORCH as won't be there every week

Maybe you could reconsider your date choices just to give the option of racing in your summer series to more drivers.

Round 2 clashes with Slough 2 Day 8th National.
Round 3 clashes with Slough Club meeting.
Round 4 clashes with Clanfield 8th National.
Round 5 clashes with Slough 3 day Proline meeting.

Rob W has a tough job sorting the dates as this year is hectic but I for 1 would like to race at TORCH on a regular basis as it has loads of potential and will be a top venue! :thumbsup:

RR.

RE is it sponsored - I'm working on it.

I'm also working on another all day meeting, but not part of the summer series.

Friday night race would be cool in August!

Talked about it last year, but if that was the case I'd want others to step up and run it. Remember comittee members are there to race too.

Re summer series I'm in discussions with a RC company at the moment, so it may be a control tyre series. TBC

Committee members racing? No chance, you gave up that right when you signed on :p:p:p. What about an open practice night instead!

Control tyre would be good, help on budgets and ease of set up :thumbsup:

Good luck with the RC Company....

Can always sign off ;)

I'll raise it at our next meeting.

Why not just leave the lap timer running for a few hours, so kind of like a timed practice. Do a few laps, change the set up, few more laps etc etc, then check times for what works?

Dudders

If you can rally enough support and propose a time from and 2. Fee and support to run, I would love to see it happen, just needs to be commitee led for BRCA reasons.

I would ask the farmer and would agree with a 6pm open and maybe say 8.30pm close???? Farmer needs to agree and I would expect numbers of 6 - 10+ people.

Open to dicussion

Thanks Steve

Steve,

:thumbsup:

I think come the summer months this could be quite easy to get 10 people min on a Wednesday or Friday night.

I know I could bring 2 paying people, plus another 2 easily (Racing whores :woot:) and I'm sure a few more stragglers would come. Head to the pub next door afterwards for a beer and food at dusk :thumbsup:.

I know its subject to weather etc but it could work. 7.00pm would be better for us travellers ;). Perhaps you guys can sort some provisional dates and create a sign up?. http://www.new-age.co.uk/sun-times.htm May to August 'could' work.

However, open track from 6.30pm till 9.30pm for a £10 or so would be wicked IMHO. Great chance to test some set ups in a relaxed atmosphere.

Neil

My thoughts about it are that I'd prefer a testing night / social thing etc. Leave the racing till Sunday. Christ i've got plenty to test on the Cougar SV and Durango..

Agree Mike, but having the timing running all night might be a bonus :thumbsup:

I'd be up for timed practice sessions, being new to this 'leccy lark I've got a lot to learn! Practice is good, and if we can leave a laptop running with timing information it means you can really work out if you're actually improving, or your setup changes are working. Friday nights would be perfect for me, but could probably do any week night really.

Rather than having timed practice on an evening, wouldn't it be easier just to do it Sunday afternoon after racing and charge just a couple of quid?

i like the idea of timed practice on an evening. it would bring in more funds for the club and with the typical unpredictable British weather should guarantee some track time every week

Evenings would be perfect, would be more social and relaxed. Also at the end of a meeting I have a certain CBA attitude and am usually knackered!

hi all you will have to excuse me if this sugestion is no good but why cant you increase the number of races i.e at the moment 4 out of 6 to count why no 4 out of 8 to count as at torch you run a meeting every sunday anyway this way the better drivers could maybe make 4 and still compete in the championship and less skilled drivers like myself could have chances to improve there position plus would give more leaway for bad weather and suchlike

regards Elliott