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Dave Dodd 10-03-2014 03:11 PM

alternative tires to mini pin?
 
As title, after some suggestions for alternative tires that don't pull at the pile in the carpet?

Foams
Venoms
Panther slicks
nanobytes
Spikes

Any helpful suggestions.

Cheers

adey 10-03-2014 03:23 PM

Try the venom 88 tyres in white compound with a hard insert. Marstons control tyre and they work great and last forever Dave. I made the decision for them too be a control tyre there.

Dave Dodd 11-03-2014 08:28 AM

Yeah a few of us have been using the venoms with slower motors and they are fun but not catching on.

I've tried foams too which can easily keep up, possibly out do pins (with the right driver lol) unfortunately not readily available.

How did your entries go when you made the change?

cunawarit 11-03-2014 09:20 AM

It also could be surface dependant, at WBMCC the white Venoms only start to grip half decently after a fair few heats. At other tracks with more grippy and perhaps newer carpet they may start gripping much earlier.

Chicken and egg situation, allegedly the mini pins make the Venoms grip less. People don't want to migrate to Venoms whilst there's no grip, but there will be no grip with Venoms whilst people still use mini pins.

PS: And yes, Venoms are a whole lot of fun at WBMCC with 13.5T motors.

mattr 11-03-2014 09:40 AM

We use VBC SE slicks over here, but with additive. As we have to share the carpet with the TC guys.

cunawarit 11-03-2014 09:49 AM

I use Venoms work better with additive too, at least at WBMCC.

Dave Dodd 11-03-2014 10:26 AM

I've ran venom whites with 13.5 and in blinky, which is still a lot of fun.
The grip should come back once pins are no longer used ??? I hope...

tyreman 11-03-2014 12:37 PM

What about the proline pin?

dicky14 11-03-2014 12:57 PM

I found on the venoms you need high horse power to get the tyres to spin and generate heat, then they work well. Also need additive to work.:thumbsup:

/tobys 11-03-2014 01:02 PM

I would have thought anything spiky and not very soft is going to pull the pile in the carpet - a bit like velcro; the hook side catches/claws on the loop side. Surely, unless you have no spike, you are going to have the same problem? A softer compound may allow the spike to fold rather than stay stiff and "claw" at the carpet?

cunawarit 11-03-2014 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dicky14 (Post 844434)
I found on the venoms you need high horse power to get the tyres to spin and generate heat, then they work well. Also need additive to work.:thumbsup:

Perhaps that's where we have gone wrong. 13.5 blinky can't generate the heat.

Frecklychimp 11-03-2014 02:03 PM

Fastrax do some 'block' or 'H pattern' tyres Dave,

FAST0200
FAST0201

FAST0202
FAST0203

£7 ish a pair but come with inserts so would make a good control type deal?

Dave Dodd 11-03-2014 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dicky14 (Post 844434)
I found on the venoms you need high horse power to get the tyres to spin and generate heat, then they work well. Also need additive to work.:thumbsup:

I will give ago with more power this friday ;)

Dave Dodd 11-03-2014 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frecklychimp (Post 844447)
Fastrax do some 'block' or 'H pattern' tyres Dave,

FAST0200
FAST0201

FAST0202
FAST0203

£7 ish a pair but come with inserts so would make a good control type deal?

cheers Mark, will have a look :)

Dave Dodd 11-03-2014 04:21 PM

Has anyone tried the rc core bow ties ?

cunawarit 11-03-2014 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Dodd (Post 844448)
I will give ago with more power this friday ;)

I may join you :D Crank up the timing...

PS: If the Clubman guys don't threaten to put me down for bailing out ;) I've just remembered that it is TL01 special day V2.

Welshy40 11-03-2014 05:29 PM

Why not just use yellow mini spikes

dicky14 12-03-2014 08:22 AM

Ive run both slicks and venoms at west bridgford and both times ive run them on a 6.5 motor, run white venoms with tubby inserts, dont belt the tyre as they need to expand too work.:thumbsup:

Chris56 12-03-2014 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cunawarit (Post 844486)
PS: If the Clubman guys don't threaten to put me down for bailing out ;) I've just remembered that it is TL01 special day V2.

Don't even think about it...................

dbizzle5 12-03-2014 08:48 AM

Ive tried venoms at bridgford and they were fucking wank! I would like to see foams back. There is a club up north that runs foams with some success i think. Cant remember which one though.


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