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RichieZXR 12-03-2013 06:20 PM

Anti roll bars on an sx3
 
Hey, after last race meeting I noticed that my sons SX3 had lots of roll in the corners, I was wondering if its worth fitting anti roll bars... has anyone used these with success, what gauge is best to use ? Or are they just a gimmick ?

Cheers

Richie

Steven Forster 12-03-2013 09:52 PM

Try looking on the schumacher site for a good setup for a track similar to ours........check the ride height, could try cut an outside row off ya tires if your getting too much side bite and grip rolling.........check your camber !!!

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cmgreen 13-03-2013 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieZXR (Post 755318)
Hey, after last race meeting I noticed that my sons SX3 had lots of roll in the corners, I was wondering if its worth fitting anti roll bars... has anyone used these with success, what gauge is best to use ? Or are they just a gimmick ?

Cheers

Richie

What setup u running?

RichieZXR 13-03-2013 12:02 PM

Sx3 s1 stock shocks and springs 40wt oil in all four shocks... 10.5t motor... Tyres are yellow cat mini spikes which have been trimmed, camber etc setup by Chris pattinson and a few of the other schuey lads... The car is very tail happy but I noticed the car has a lot of roll in the bends

cmgreen 13-03-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RichieZXR (Post 755611)
Sx3 s1 stock shocks and springs 40wt oil in all four shocks... 10.5t motor... Tyres are yellow cat mini spikes which have been trimmed, camber etc setup by Chris pattinson and a few of the other schuey lads... The car is very tail happy but I noticed the car has a lot of roll in the bends

i would try 35 in the rear, if you can buy the rear wide track made alot of difference to mine. Do you have the rear alloy blocks?

RichieZXR 13-03-2013 04:14 PM

No matey plastic blocks all round rear wide track ? Is that longer wishbones and swing shafts ?

badger5 13-03-2013 04:51 PM

The wide rear track mod U4114 uses longer rear driveshafts and spaces out the suspension blocks, it kinda locks in the rear end. The steering mod U4113 is also pretty good and reduces the slop in the steering.
The lack of rear grip could be down to what surface your running on and tyres your using, if its wet astro and your using Schuey yellows then I would expect to have grip issues. Are you running kit springs and shock pistons?
Camber links and positions also have an effect on how your car rolls, you could try and shorten the front and rear links to see if that helps. To see if it helps and if you don't have the option camber links lower the inner ball stud which will have a smaller effect than a shorter link but will point you in the right direction.
Roll bars may help but I always feel that they seem to remove some grip if you only use one at one end of the car. I used to use one sometimes on the rear but I never had issues with rear grip.

cmgreen 13-03-2013 04:53 PM

The wide rear track includes a few washers, longer screws and longer drive shafts, to be used with the alloy blocks i believe. If you get the alloy stuff it gives a much better setup.

I never ran my sx3 with out the alloy blocks but when i ran my k1 as kit i did not like it, but added the blocks and set it up how i wanted it, it was much much better

cryer-evo 14-03-2013 07:17 AM

2deg camber front and rear
On rear hub put control link in the out side hole
Go to 45 oil front and 35 rear also put ride hight at 20mm also put if you have plastic front caster hubs put 1mm under the ball stud if you have the alloy ones put 2mm under it also run car in long wheel base

cmgreen 14-03-2013 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cryer-evo (Post 755933)
2deg camber front and rear
On rear hub put control link in the out side hole
Go to 45 oil front and 35 rear also put ride hight at 20mm also put if you have plastic front caster hubs put 1mm under the ball stud if you have the alloy ones put 2mm under it also run car in long wheel base

Agree! i used neg 1 all round and 40wt in front

Barry Williams 14-03-2013 10:07 AM

Hey Richie

We will be down at Seaham this Sunday, if you like I will ask Greg (as he is home from uni) to have a drive with Nathans car in practice to see what he reckons & we can have a go at improving it a bit?

Barry Williams 14-03-2013 11:55 AM

Slight change of plan, Just spoke to Greg in the last hour & he broke his wrist last night so prob not be able to test drive Nathans car, we should still be there however & see if we can help with your issues

Barry

AfroP 14-03-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry Williams (Post 756007)
Slight change of plan, Just spoke to Greg in the last hour & he broke his wrist last night so prob not be able to test drive Nathans car, we should still be there however & see if we can help with your issues

Barry

ouch!!

hows he managed to do that? drink related or sports?

Barry Williams 14-03-2013 08:47 PM

I will let him tell you himself on Sunday

RichieZXR 15-03-2013 07:18 AM

Cheers Barry he should have his new speedo etc in for then :-)


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