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sefton 06-01-2007 06:20 PM

Cheap Orion lipo chargers?
 
I'm thinking of going LIPO (on a budget)

Has anyone heard of these cheaper Orion lipo chargers? (they arent on the Orion web site).

http://www.lstshop.co.uk/catalog/ind...d8329e34435d5f

Craig.

DCM 06-01-2007 06:21 PM

You got to look in their flight electronics section.... Avionics I think it is called.

sefton 06-01-2007 06:51 PM

do you think they would be good enough or would it be wize to get the advantage charger?

Craig.

ashleyb4 06-01-2007 06:54 PM

They are no good for charging the lipo's for 1/10th cars i would get the advanatge i have one and i have never charged lipo off it but it is a very good charger.

A

DCM 06-01-2007 07:13 PM

not to sure, but I think this one http://www.teamorion-avionics.com/Ad...harging+System is a little low on the charge current, and designed for flight packs and receiver packs

sefton 06-01-2007 07:24 PM

just had a look on ebay, the advantage is about £75 plus postage from HK or USA.

Craig

ashleyb4 06-01-2007 07:56 PM

If its the newest version (the one that looks like carbon fibre) then that is a bargain.

A

dave g 06-01-2007 09:33 PM

just remember that there is no benefit from high amp charging of lipo's,the performance remains the same wether you charge at 1 amp or 5 amps,only time is saved by faster charging.

dave

DCM 06-01-2007 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sefton (Post 19731)
just had a look on ebay, the advantage is about £75 plus postage from HK or USA.

Craig

Dont forget though, if it goes pop, the UK distributor will not help you get it repaired.

And LiPo, never re-peak them......

dave g 06-01-2007 10:45 PM

cmon steve..you know as well as i do that its impossible to repeak lipos :)

dave

DCM 06-01-2007 10:57 PM

You and me, yes, but there are lots out there, and I have heard some real horror stories, especialy when Helicopters first started using LiPo, and the amount of people who ask if they can use they X charger to charge LiPo, lol

dave g 06-01-2007 11:03 PM

in theory you cant overcharge the lipo if the charger is working correctly no matter how many times you try to retop them up,because the chargers work on a voltage cuttoff point not peak detect(lipos dont have peak drop off,they just keep climbing)
so when the charger detects 8.4v it terminates the charge(some are set to 8.2v)

dave

jimmy 06-01-2007 11:16 PM

This is the one I am using with the Trakpower lipo

http://www.flightpower.co.uk/acatalog/301dx_s.jpg

http://www.flightpower.co.uk/acatalog/Chargers.html


Its great, not much more to say about it really, will mention it in the trakpower lipo review though.


There were a few guys running the TrakPower lipo tonight (touring cars) running a range of different chargers.. there is no real advantage (pun!) to any of them..

dave g 07-01-2007 08:15 AM

yes a cheap charger should provide the same lipo performance as an expensive charger since charge rate bears no outcome on the performance of the cell,obviously its paramount you buy a good quality charger thats fit for the job as the last thing you want is a charger failing.

dave

sefton 07-01-2007 10:21 AM

So am I right in thinking, I can charge then race then charge then race and so on?

Theres no need to discharge and equailize or cool down time before recharging?

Craig.

JCJC 07-01-2007 10:22 AM

Interesting range from Bantam, lots of info here

http://www.bantam301.20m.com/

Do they do adjustable Delta Peak on NiMh, anyone know?

Dunc 07-01-2007 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCJC (Post 19773)
Interesting range from Bantam, lots of info here

http://www.bantam301.20m.com/

Do they do adjustable Delta Peak on NiMh, anyone know?

If in doubt, read the manual! :D

I had a look at the 902 model and it does have an adjustable delta peak of 5-20mV per cell (look at page 7 of the manual). I didn't check any of the other models.

Hope that helps.

sefton 07-01-2007 11:38 AM

has anyone got any pics of how lipo's are wired up? because the pics always look like a closed solid unit!

DCM 07-01-2007 11:50 AM

depends on the LiPo pack, if it is the team orion, then it is just a pair of corally connectors going into the case.

JCJC 07-01-2007 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunc (Post 19774)
If in doubt, read the manual! :D

I had a look at the 902 model and it does have an adjustable delta peak of 5-20mV per cell (look at page 7 of the manual). I didn't check any of the other models.

Hope that helps.

Cheers Dunc, looked at the 301 manual before, not mentioned, but thought manual was mabey missing it.
Mick:wtf:

5-20mV per cell---------is that a little high for NiMh or am I missing something as usual


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