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Hog 14-02-2008 11:24 AM

Whatever happened to......
 
The mini-cone tyres that were being tried and tested a while back? Did they prove to be better than mini-spikes?

Southwell 14-02-2008 11:25 AM

The GRP ones? they were more consistant during wear and didn't rip apart, but they arn't the national tyre this year.

jimmy 14-02-2008 11:29 AM

I'll be using them at all the regionals this year :thumbsup:

Richard Lowe 14-02-2008 11:30 AM

They are available direct from the Mirage website or all good model shops. They arn't the nominated national tire but you can still use them at regionals and club meetings ;)

/end shamless plug :lol:

Northy 14-02-2008 11:35 AM

I'll be using them at all regionals this year too :thumbsup:

G

jim76 14-02-2008 11:36 AM

There might be a couple of other compounds available in a few weeks also.

I will be running them at regionals this year.

Wraggy 14-02-2008 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 94231)
I'll be using them at all the regionals this year :thumbsup:

dont think Mid West will be as we have nominated tyres ...:thumbdown:

super__dan 14-02-2008 11:46 AM

They are a good tyre, but cos they came out at the end of the outdoor season their testing was limited before indoors (and mini pins) came along.

I intend to use them outdoors a lot at regionals this year!

Lee 14-02-2008 11:52 AM

Is the general opinion that they are better than the shuey yellow minispike?

Northy 14-02-2008 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wraggy (Post 94236)
dont think Mid West will be as we have nominated tyres ...:thumbdown:

But has your nominated tyre been decided yet? :confused:

G

Wraggy 14-02-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 94239)
But has your nominated tyre been decided yet? :confused:

G

not yet G , but i very much doubt it will be chosen.
i think the norm of BB & Schuy's

jim76 14-02-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 94238)
Is the general opinion that they are better than the shuey yellow minispike?

They perform similar on the track, but have a far better moulding to recent yellows, and wear more consistantly.

Richard Lowe 14-02-2008 12:17 PM

They tend not to clog as easily in the wet either because of the textured surface.

RogerM 14-02-2008 12:33 PM

I think Wraggy will be spot on ... schumy Minis and BB Minis.

Can't believe that some regions don't have nominated tires ..... make slife so much easier and cheaper as you know what you need early on ..... better for the shops too as they don't have to stock tires they won't sell.

Inside Line 14-02-2008 12:40 PM

There is a valid point here about the quality of the mould on the Schumacher tyres, everytime I buy some I find myself checking many pairs to get a good one, most of the moulds are not true, which is not on with the price we have to pay for them. Like the look of these GRP tyres.

Cockerill 14-02-2008 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 94257)
Can't believe that some regions don't have nominated tires ..... make slife so much easier and cheaper as you know what you need early on ..... better for the shops too as they don't have to stock tires they won't sell.

Because it gives one company a monopoly of the market with tires which are not good enough. Some are pre-worn out the packet, others rip apart in use. I also had blues marked as yellows last year to.

Don't know about other regions but in the NE nearly everyone uses common tires that the shops stock so thats not a problem.

I'll be using GRP's because they are cheaper, and I know that they will be the same everytime I open the packet, and they come with foams which is an added bonus :thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inside Line (Post 94260)
There is a valid point here about the quality of the mould on the Schumacher tyres, everytime I buy some I find myself checking many pairs to get a good one, most of the moulds are not true, which is not on with the price we have to pay for them. Like the look of these GRP tyres.

I know one driver was going through two sets of tires a run at nationals, he would have to buy two sets, and pick out the two good tires. :thumbdown:

jim76 14-02-2008 12:47 PM

schumacher are apparently releasing yellows under a new part number which is a new mould version (same design, just new mould). Not sure if they are allowed for nationals as they are a different part number to the original tyre, and i don't think they are out in time for the first one in April.

Southwell 14-02-2008 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim76 (Post 94266)
schumacher are apparently releasing yellows under a new part number which is a new mould version (same design, just new mould). Not sure if they are allowed for nationals as they are a different part number to the original tyre, and i don't think they are out in time for the first one in April.

Well things like this should be allowed to be accepted even after the nominated part number has gone through, the current ones are just costing us more money than they should.

burgie 14-02-2008 12:53 PM

A few drivers noticed used the GRP tyres at southport towards the end of last season, and as previously stated, they seemed to provide more grip on all sections of the track and that they wore better than the pic n mix schumachers

However when the cars were coming off the concrete section of the track and onto the straight, just as the throttle was being applied, they caused the cars to "fishtail" and spin out. Swapping back to Shumachers removed this problem.

Don't know what was causing this, either the rubber inserts or the "pile" of the astro turf may have been the problem. It may even have been the tyre itself.

As far as i know, nobody used the GRP with foam inserts as a test.

I will probably use the GRP's at Southport this year and will experiment with the inserts to see if the problem goes.

Having said that, the straight is being replaced with new astro very soon, so the problem may well go then as well.

jim76 14-02-2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southwell (Post 94268)
Well things like this should be allowed to be accepted even after the nominated part number has gone through, the current ones are just costing us more money than they should.

i agree, but it would leave schumacher with a big pile of unwanted yellows from the old mould i guess? they may be allowed, not sure yet, have to wait on some offical word


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