ok mate where do the micro guys usually get? by the door or by the banger track? gonna be using kits on sunday lol just to get use to the car etc yea the caster is a nice car lol, did order a ftx but nothing came of it, looked at the associated but with the demise of the 18ths at national level i decided to get something that fitted in the 16ths lol looked at the carisma but was out of my price range especially as i am buying 2 of everything