Correction on my laptimes, just fired the PS2 up again now
The ring in simulation mode is 5:00.6 in the Sauber group c car, I've just had a quick bash with the controller in arcade mode, I did 5:28 on the second lap with a few offs

I think I can get to about 5:15 with the controller, the steering wheel is so much better!
Best I can manage round Chamonix in simulation mode is 2:12.9 in the Escudo