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Old 30-10-2011
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Default B4.1 wheelbase?

Anyone tell me in general terms what handling affect long, short and medium wheel base set ups would give, I assume they will affect the steering a fair bit but not sure how?

Any help appreciated!
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A longer wheelbase car rides bumps better but gives less steering.

A shrter wheelbase car is more pointy and edgy over bumps.
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I actually think it's just the opposite: longer base gives more steering. It confirmed by number of trusted sources and by my personal experience, but I might be wrong...
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RudolfXC is right. But when driving a rear motor car like the B4 you will get the motor closer to the rear axles when using a longer wheelbase what moves the weight slightly to the front.
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I actually think it's just the opposite: longer base gives more steering. It confirmed by number of trusted sources and by my personal experience, but I might be wrong...
SO you're saying a stretch limo has a tighter turning radius than a mini cooper...rrrrrr-i-g-h-t





But it does explain the ongoing issues with the Russian car industry.
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That's exactly what I thought initially, but it's not that simple.
Couple of quotes:
Charlie Perez' Setup Hints
If you want increased steering exiting the corner with this setup you have a couple of adjustment options.
you can move the rear hubs towards the rear of the car. The further you move your rear hubs back will give you more overall steering and less overall rear traction.
X6 manual
Moving the hub carrier forward increases rear traction in two ways: Primarily you are
adding more ‘angle’ to the driveshaft, so there’s more scrub between the dog bone and
the outdrive as well as in the CVD joint. All this friction locks in the rear end and creates
traction. Moving the hub carrier forward also increases the percentage of weight on the
rear tires, further increasing bite.
Moving the hub carriers back is probably the easiest way to add steering and corner
speed to the X – 6 Squared. It’s one of the most commonly used adjustments for UK
Champion Ellis Stafford. Moving the hub carrier or arm back some will increase
steering throughout the corner. It also makes the car more stable in bumps, and
because the driveshaft isn’t as bound up, the car will “pop” better over jumps.
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That's exactly what I thought initially, but it's not that simple.
Well, it is - being as what you're noting is changing the mechanical grip and axle angle dynamics via torquing the CVD/driveshaft.
Otherwise, conceptually, it's a pretty simple concept if one gives it any thought.
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But it does explain the ongoing issues with the Russian car industry.
it's a hit below belt :-))))
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