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X11 setting for very loose track...
i'm a little disappoint, i can not found a good setup for my track
is very loose, and my x11 in acceleration out of the corner lost the rear (oversteering) this is the track: i use the same tyres of other drivers. esc xerun 120 2.1 lipo stick motor feigao 6.5 with 17 pinion. this is my last setup: front: oil losi 35 1 hole no valve internal spacer 4mm. spring 5.5 Caster min, upper front amrs all front, next time i try with: max caster 21° with mod pushrod short, (next time try with standard pushrod) camber 1° toe 0° rear: oil 35 losi 1 hole no valve spring 6 + pre compression gold max drop shock on lower hole upright on higher hole (next time i try with lower hole) wheelbase lowered of 2mm. toe in 2.5° rear diff. little loose. big wing with gurney (team arashi) i search one car more easy to drive.... thanks for the help. other picture:
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Try softer rear oil - 30wt with softer springs and run more toe in on the rear.
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i have used oil 30 but is to low with this temperature (the track is indoor and the temperature is over 30°C very hot...) when the car landing, the rear touch the ground very strong. Ps: the pred.co is off line from some days... Connection Problems Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later.
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You can also try to loosen the slipper a little bit (let's say 1/16 of a turn) to make the car less agressive during acceleration.
I'm having my first race on clay surface with the pred this weekend so I'm also a bit excited and having a lot of questions in terms of setup |
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in my experience, the clutch of the pred is not much stable and reliable
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If it has power-on oversteer, try less steering lock.
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Hey Maxi
Having a quick look at your set up, maybe you could try using a 23 tooth pinion with the motor that you are using. This should make it accelerate smoother. Hope that helps
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Also you could try front rebound valves and blue rear springs on the middle hole on rocker.
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no, because, in some tight turns the car is in understeer
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Thanks, but just with the 19 tooth pinion the motor is very hot and after few minutes the speedo is in protection...
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The last time I ran on Astro I had the following setup. Front shocks losi 30wt oil 2 hole piston yellow spring No rebound valve or limiters Rear shocks 35wt losi oil 2 hole piston Red spring with pre-compression spring No limiters or rebound valves Max caster 1 deg camber front 3 deg on the rear Max droop Middle hole on rear shock towers Front ride height 19mm Rear ride height 21mm (wishbone just below level) Rear sway bar on soft setting Top hole in rear hubs Worth a try! Also worth possibly keeping an eye on www.teamnoidea.com as soon as this UK weather gets better ill be out testing every 5 mins and reporting about setups on the site.
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thanks for the tips of the pinion i will try asap.
I'm sorry but it is not astro, the first image has the colors distorted by the camera, but it is hard clay ground.
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Maybe reducing the punch on the speedo would help too...
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thanks to all guys,
today i have worked a lot on the setting, i think is only a problem of balance... because with the front soft and without the spacer (my new setup of today), with more drop and a soft oil the car have a good grip at front and rear.... with the spacer and the oil stronger the front have a little roll and the rear the same, in fact in the corner entry, the car was understeering and oversteering in the out, but now is much more balanced. my problem now is found a good ratio, because with 23 tooth pinion the esc is in protection.... same with 22,19, and 17 th pinion.... this is my new setup: front: 1 hole oil losi 30 no valve spring 5.5 max caster 21° standard pushrod camber 1° toe 0° rear 1 hole oil 35 no valve spring 6.5 upright lower hole wheelbase lenghtened of 2mm. upright with camber joint mod. big wing team azarashi with max gurney camber 2° toe in 3,5° and same other bits tomorrow....
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this is my last mod make the rear more driveable.... tha camber link now is 8mm more long. and work always parallel to the lower wishbones.
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Does it make a big difference??
Mmm.. looks interesting |
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i think is better, this is a copy of the upright modded for the euro 08 in Italy from Nathan Ralls. the car is more easy to drive in a slippery track, in the in and out of turns.
you need a new turnbuckle 4mm 28-30 mm longher.
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Thanks!
Now where is my Dremel?! |
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please let me know your feedback.
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