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Tamiya and AE springs
which tamiya springs have the closest match to the AE green and silver springs?
i've seen some of you guys use the AE green and silver on the durga. i don't have any AE springs except for the DF03 gold/silver/black and 501/db01 spring sets (red/blue/yellow dots) is there a close match in the spring rates? |
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Well, it's your lucky day!
http://www.rctech.net/forum/4415566-post1325.html Sounds like Tamiya yellow front and red rear are the springs you are looking for.
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Spring Chart
Hi,
I found this on an other forum. Hope this helps... --- Here's a spring chart done by Ling: Yokomo Spring Rating [lb/in] Orange 18.87 Green 16.06 Pink 14.93 Yellow 14.71 White 12.94 Blue 12.12 Rayspeed Spring Rating [lb/in] Gray 19.90 Red 18.26 White 17.17 Yellow 14.87 Blue 14.29 Green 13.20 Associated Spring Rating [lb/in] White 40.00 Yellow 31.91 Purple 30.30 Copper 23.26 Red 23.08 Gold 18.35 Blue 16.53 Silver 13.89 Green 11.43 Tamiya Spring Rating [lb/in] Purple 22.72 Gray 20.91 White Short 17.24 Blue Short 15.27 White 14.82 Blue 14.08 Yellow 13.33 Red Short 13.24 Yellow Short 12.90 Red 11.86 Courtesy of Ling Kang Tong, Mechanical Engineer ALZA Macroflux Development ---
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Here you go!
Cheers Ling Tong Tamiya Front Buggy Springs [lb/in] DB01 4.35 Blue3.80 Yellow3.58 Red3.17 Tamiya Rear Buggy Springs [lb/in] DB01 2.43 Blue2.02 Yellow1.84 Red1.77 and all the AE springs are here. http://www.teamassociated.com/racerh...rate_chart.htm so AE green fronts are 3.50, which is close to tamiya yellow. and AE silver is 2.10, which is close to tamiya blue |
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Ling, thank you for the post! Do you know the spring rate for the standard 501X kit springs?
If I remember right, they are not labeled with any paint color markings, like the option spring kit (red, yellow, blue).
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They usually have a little point on it. The Standard springs in the 501X are the yellow springs in the front and the reds spring in the rear.
Tamiya Front Buggy Springs [lb/in] DB01 4.35 Blue3.80 Yellow3.58 Red3.17 Tamiya Rear Buggy Springs [lb/in] DB01 2.43 Blue2.02 Yellow1.84 Red1.77 |
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I had to look because I needed a stiffer spring yesterday so I tried the original front springs (vs. Associated silver) and the car felt much better!
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This is another useful spring chart since this is now a sticky...
http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/BuggySpringChart.pdf Maybe Jimmy can add the new Tamiya rates that were posted by ling into this chart.
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I've rearranged some of the springs by brand on my web page http://www.bigbigplanet.com/rccars/r...ad_springs.php
Haven't quite finished but getting there.
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In fact, Jimmy couldn't do much here as I did the document! I have added the data from Tamiya spring and also the ones for Schumacher from the Cat SX. Those ones need to be confirmed as I took the value from the manual (hope they are fine!) I created a thread regarding spring rates some month back http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...t=spring+chart, might be a good idea to put everything tougher and stick it |
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SWEET! Thanks for the updated sheet!
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Just confused by the new sheet a little. There's both Tamiya Durga springs and Tamiya springs with DB01 for colour. I understand the DB01 ones are the black kit springs measured by Ling. What's the Durga one?
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Sorry for the confusion!
Here what is indicated on the data sheet: Buggy Rear Tamiya DB01 2,43DB1 data come from above, Durga data comes from elsewhere, can't remind me. One set look like theorical and the other from measurement. I don't use Tamiya stuff so if someone can provide the adequate information to sort out this point, that will be great! |
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Ok, I sorted the point about Durga/DB01 springs!
Sosidge gave me dimensions (refer to this thread) and I did a bit of calculation. There is one coefficient depending of the material in the formula. If the coefficient is not exactly the one for the material, rates are slightly wrong. Let's go with the data provided here! |
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Regarding spring lengths, the Tamiya and Associated springs are too long when running LIPOs. Cut spring rub on the shock bodies. Are the Kyosho rear springs shorter? Im after the equivelant o t Associated rear silvers, so that would be yellow rear kyosho springs.
thanks.
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Excellent, so it appears the 2.10 Durga spring will be ideal.
Does anyone have a part number for this spring, and a reference to the source for the 2.10 spring rate?
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Chris aren't you supposed to add weight to your car when running Lipos so that the car is race legal....?
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