Off Road Moto Arena

[Xizor]

Originally Posted by dale

While 90% of the Oople users may be off-roaders (who certainly won't agree with what I've just said), they don't represent 90% of the racing community, where the split is a lot more even.

Hear, hear!

However, I don't see why they can't develop a top-class removable off-road circuit at the same time as sorting out the on-track.

They did have a regular, quite well attended, on-road series going until a few weeks ago. It was being run by the Milton Keynes club until there were a few problems. If they can be ironed out, hopefully they will restart.

[MiniKing]

Seems MKRCTC club haven't sorted their problems with MA as yet - check their forum.

[JCJC]

Originally Posted by MiniKing

Seems MKRCTC club haven't sorted their problems with MA as yet - check their forum.

Cheers for that MiniKing, but to access the forum you have to register, I can see its Pete White's birthday, happy birthday Pete White

I cannot be asked to register

[mark christopher]

this on thier main page

MKRCTC Back At Mill Mead

Due to a combination of the next two Sunday's at Silverstone the traffic will be manic, feedback from the club members plus issues the club have raised with Moto Arena not being resolved to our satisfaction, with immediate effect the club will revert to racing at Mill Mead on Sunday mornings. Wednesday evening events will no longer take place.

Whilst Moto Arena has the potential to be a fantastic facility, the committee feel that the club is best served reverting back to Mill Mead Hall for the time being at least. It is possible that we will reconsider being based at Moto Arena in the future, once some of the issues we have highlighted have been addressed, we remain in regular contact with the management team.

So just to recap, starting with Sunday 19th September, MKRCTC will be racing at Mill Mead Hall at the usual start / finish times.

[PaulUpton]

MKRCTC are still in talks with MA about returning, nothing finalised yet.

[mk2kompressor]

Originally Posted by Xizor

Hear, hear!

However, I don't see why they can't develop a top-class removable off-road circuit at the same time as sorting out the on-track.

exactly whats going to happen, the on-road track will be built based on an island system and the off-road parts will be made removable.
i hope you guys have got some good ideas for monday

[Xizor]

Originally Posted by mk2kompressor

exactly whats going to happen, the on-road track will be built based on an island system and the off-road parts will be made removable.
i hope you guys have got some good ideas for monday

Sounds promising. Can you explain what you mean by an 'island system', please.

Cheers

[Teddy truman]

If you guys want infomation at MA. Ask grant to give you my details.. i used to run PDA in Bicester just up the road.

We had the building taken away from us that is why we shut down to answer a previous question.

I have been there and got the T-shirt.

I work about 20Yards from the MA on the circuit and i live about 10mins away... so like i said you want advice, just ask..

Tony

[mk2kompressor]

Here until 7.30 guys

[Adam F]

Just a quick note to MA..

I for one used to drive for an hour every wednesday to race at PDA, yes it was small but well run and an awesome track. Probably the most welcoming venue I have ever raced at.

No disrespect to anyone else, but getting advice from people like Alec & Tony will give you a brilliant starting point, I just hope you dont expect them to do all the chasing.... its in your interest to make this venture work and these guys could not only help, but give you some credibility, which you really need

[mk2kompressor]

A good mate of mine Mr Neil "Skully" Skull knocked up a track design in the end
its not final but i am after feedback please

[DaveG28]

Is most of the surface Tarmac?

Looks pretty good, couple of things I'd bear in mind in my view:

1. If jumps are sharp enough for a car to land upside down at speed, put the loose surface there too, a fat upside down crash into Tarmac sounds unhealthy for car and track!

2. Assume the rostrum is at the bottom?

3. With a long straight run up make the wall of death quite high, cos someone will ramp it flat anyway

4. Very small point, personally I wouldn't narrow up the mountain on the inside like that!

Like it though, would happily race that (tho I have no free weekends and live a few hours away!)

[Neil Skull]

I knocked this up super quick on a cad system not for track design, so apologies for few things not clear.

Matt was hoping to get some racers at the venue for input and ideas but no one came forward. A saw the basic sketch which a very flowing track which would have been on full power for approx 80% so i offered to start this with a cad drawing we can change and modify easy.

So a few points.

Yes the rostrum is at the bottom
The track is 4 meteres wide in most places going down to 3. So it is pretty big track.
The Mountain corner is reduced to 3 metres from 4 this is to make a space for a marshall, i figure most will be in the outer meter anyway.
Jumps can be moved easily and more added.
Oh and yes i agree wall of death needs to be quite high, thats hard to show in 2d
Maybe a hop or a rumble strip somewhere in the run up to stop people hitting too fast and landing in the rafters

As much input as possible please.

[liam]

More Jumps or even an underpass

[PTRU]

Hi Neil
if Matt would have liked the imput of the racers or track builders he only had to ask the said people. this may sound strange but people will not come and give imput unless they are asked.

wish you well and the track looks interesting.

[PaulUpton]

There is a very good reason why we didnt turn up last night, im sure Matt is aware of the issue.

Design looks good though.

when is says mountain, i would be more inclined for a corner table top, unless thats what you had in mind anyway

Paul

[Neil Skull]

Originally Posted by PTRU

Hi Neil
if Matt would have liked the imput of the racers or track builders he only had to ask the said people. this may sound strange but people will not come and give imput unless they are asked.

wish you well and the track looks interesting.

Matt did ask, check back in this thread.
A few guys offered to go but could not make it.

Im not really into track design but i was hoping by making a template you can give me pointers as to what we can do to improve the design as it stands.

[Neil Skull]

Originally Posted by PaulUpton

There is a very good reason why we didnt turn up last night, im sure Matt is aware of the issue.

Design looks good though.

when is says mountain, i would be more inclined for a corner table top, unless thats what you had in mind anyway

Paul

That could be my bad terminology.
its to be a tall corner top type mountain like at petit in maratime last year.

[GRIFF55]

would there be sunday meets with the possibility of a track covering? If the track is good, i would make the trip (as the trumans could vouch)

[blue_pinky]

4m wide sounds huge...and if my counting is any good you have a 40m straight in there too...I wish we had that much space at caldicot!!!

Is 4m based on something fixed in the track area? If not, maybe reduce the width to the same as nationals, not sure of the number (something like 2.5m minimum i think?!? Isn't 1/8th track width 3m?) but sure it's less than 4m, that could feel a little too open maybe?!? You could use the space better for a longer track with a few more turns then!

Keep it fast and flowing with just enough features and you'll be onto a winner!