Whatever happened to......

[Northy]

The nominated national tyre is a 'Schumacher minispike' not a part number.

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[Cockerill]

Surely this 'new tire' is gonna screw the shops over big style as no one is going to want to buy a new 'old' tire

[Southwell]

Possibly, imo schumacher should recall the current ones, they should take the hit, not the shops.

[Lee]

How many people will really know the difference, to be honest last year i just mounted up the new tyres i never checked to see what the tyres looked like.


Were they really that bad?

[Wraggy]

Originally Posted by Lee

Were they really that bad?

yes Lee they were !!

[Chris Green]

Who makes the decision about the regional tyres? is it at the AGM?

[Nick Goodall]

Originally Posted by Lee

How many people will really know the difference, to be honest last year i just mounted up the new tyres i never checked to see what the tyres looked like.


Were they really that bad?

Gotta say i'm kinda with you on this one mate, i saw some that were bad and even ran them myself but they weren't noticiably bad on track - I agree that at nearly £8 a pair they should be perfect and you have every right to complain but i don't think it would make that much difference personally....... I think the only thing that would really be noticable is when the tyre shreads into 3 pieces as i did hear of that happening but it didn't to me so i can't complain really.

[Hog]

Seem to have opened a bit of a can of worms here.........

[MattW]

It's a fair call that some of the yellows from last year really weren't that great. I gave them some grief over it and i'm sure i wasn't the only one. I was assured that it was being sorted, as someone has mentioned with the moulds. I'm not sure about the part numbers and all, i didn't ask.

The GRP's i saw did indeed look well moulded, but then you'd expect that for a brand spanking new mould, and this should also be the case with the Schumacher's soon (I hope!!). I haven't run any GRP's personally, but it looked to me purely by watching others run them that the wear rate looked a little high, but then some say it doens't effect grip. Haven't tested them personally, but can't help thinking it must. Otherwise we wouldn't bother putting new tyres on! When both companies have new moulds, it's fair to compare.

[Col]

Originally Posted by MattW

When both companies have new moulds, it's fair to compare.

Here I have to disagree - if GRP hadn't released a new tyre then I doubt that schumacher would have built a new mould, they would have gone on charging us a small fortune for an inferior product because they could. I for one have decided never to run a schumacher tyre again

[MattW]

Good luck with that, it's your choice.

You may be right, you may not. Truth is none of us will ever know. However, what i will say is that last time the tyre form got really bad (around 3-4 years ago i think) Schumacher did do something about it and they spent a fair bit of cash over hauling the mould, and initially they were very very good. There was a small decline after maybe 2 years, then there was last year when i totally agree they weren't really good enough.

Will GRP produce the same vollume of tyres and build completely new moulds every 2-3 years?? who knows, I certainly don't and it's not fair to speculate. Let's hope they do! then maybe they will never have any quality issues in any tyre that they sell.

It's a fact of life that moulds wear - just have a look at any of the components for an Associated B4. When i built my origional kit, the bits just fell together. I haven't built a recent kit, but from what i understand the dremel/file/sand paper needs to be kept to hand to make the bits fit. It's a fact of life unfortunately.

[Spoolio]

Originally Posted by MattW

It's a fact of life that moulds wear - just have a look at any of the components for an Associated B4. When i built my origional kit, the bits just fell together. I haven't built a recent kit, but from what i understand the dremel/file/sand paper needs to be kept to hand to make the bits fit.

I have. You understand right mate . The front arms are - comparatively speaking - a poor fit now until they've had some fettling, but thats a story for another day (or thread)!

[wacattack]

In the regionals its GRP all the way for me. Its about time Schumacher had some decent competition as theyve had it far too easy for too long.

This lack of competition has resulted in some shocking tyre production from Schumacher, just so they save costs. But the consumers being the ones to suffer who end up suffering.

Once (if) GRP are legal at the nationals next yeat it will be interesting to see how Schumacher react