Ebay.

Chris Harte · #1 15-10-2008

I have been on ebay since 2004 and I recently sold something on it. My feedback score is 31 with 5 still to be added. This is my 3rd of 4th sale instead of being a buyer.
I got an email off the buyer this morning telling me he would go to the bank today and put money into his account or otherwise he would be overdrawn.
I get home tonight and check my paypal account and it tells me the money is on hold and to post now.

The seller is 05cr feedback of 38. He has changed his ebay name
on many occasions.

His ebay name history is
O5cr 5 october 08 - present
Mo5in 16 july 07 - 5 october 08
X-man.* 2 may 07 - 16 july 07
ak67even 28 march 07 - 2 may 07
Oscar67UK 2 nov 07 - 28 march 07.

Goofbay and ebay say he has had no negative feedback but it does say that the bottom three names had no feedback at all.

Is the funds being put on hold and directed to post now the new paypal protection thing or is it dodgy because he paid me without the funds.

The paypal thing say that it will release the funds when the buyer leaves me positive feedback or nothing is disputed in 21 days.

What do I do?
Post or withold the item?

Check lower down for info on the case.

savageman25 · #2 15-10-2008

id with hold the item, this sounds abit dodgey

steel · #3 15-10-2008

ive never heard of this m8 quote me if im wrong someone but you never post untill payment is recieved i got a payment on hold at the moment waiting for the buyers funds to clear hope this helps

Rick · #4 15-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Chris Harte

The paypal thing say that it will release the funds when the buyer leaves me positive feedback or nothing is disputed in 21 days.

This bit sounds odd to me, I sold a few stuff on ebay a while ago and the money always transfered straight away. I have also had a couple of disputes through paypal and again the money was paid at the time of the sale and then repayed to me following the successful dispute.

Have you questioned this with paypal, through their links on the site.

PS I always access paypal (& ebay) through my favourites and never through a link sent to me in email, there are a lot of dodgy people out there sending link which look OK but aren't.

PPS What if he doesnt leave feedback as its not compulsary?

Chris Harte · #5 15-10-2008

I have emailed the buyer and told him I will wait a week for funds to clear, if they don't I will ask for another method of payment.
I explained why I am whitholding the item aswell.

Does that sound fair to you guys?

Chris Harte · #6 15-10-2008

In reply to ricks post this is the link that paypal gives me its happened because the item has been subject to a payment review. I have done some research into the payment review and it tells me to withold the item until funds clear, but the paypal thing say on hold -post now

. very confused.

mambamax · #7 15-10-2008

what i would do is ask for a landline number if you intend to send the item before funds cleare

MikePimlott · #8 15-10-2008

sounds very dodgy to me. are the paypal pages you visit and the emails from paypal.co.uk in the address bar??

Id certainly hold the items until you have the payment in your account.

bigred5765 · #9 15-10-2008

its a new security feature in side paypal they have done it a few times to people i know with low feedback, this happened to c cocker a few weeks back, ring paypal they will explain,
ps it paypal that hold the money untill the buyer recieves the goods and is happy with it,

DCM · #10 15-10-2008

if the money ain't in your account, don't send it, as soon as you send it, remove the money from paypal to your bank.

bigred5765 · #11 15-10-2008

ring paypal, they will explaine it to you,

bodgit · #12 16-10-2008

Just contact the buyer and explain what paypal are doing and tell him you will post once payment is recieved, he should understand that

maky · #13 16-10-2008

had this couple years ago when i was new to ebay.sold a phone had paypal invoice saying money was in an papyal account and would be sent soon as proof of postage was sent to the reply address. so i sent item sent proof and that was it no moNey no note so contact paypal and tell them DONT SEND IT!!!

bigred5765 · #14 16-10-2008

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Originally Posted by bodgit

Just contact the buyer and explain what paypal are doing and tell him you will post once payment is recieved, he should understand that

the thing is with trying to do it this way paypal will never realise the funds until the buyer contacts paypal to say he/she has recieved it,

bodgit · #15 16-10-2008

I have over 550 sales and buys with ebay and would never consider posting an item untill payment is recieved. If paypal wont play ball then contact seller to send cheque No way let him have item without payment

terry.sc · #16 16-10-2008

Paypal is doing this to protect the buyer here. You've been around for some time, but you have not got enough feedback from previous sales for Paypal to be sure you're genuine and not an old dead account that's been hijacked, so they have introduced this to protect buyers from scams - and therefore themselves.
Funds will be released either when the buyer leaves positive feedback, or after 21 days whichever is sooner.

More details here
https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/we...utside#payment

dave g · #17 16-10-2008

and also a great way for paypal to make some coin off the interest while they are holding it..in the buyers interest of course

Chris Harte · #18 16-10-2008

I have contacted paypal and they said due to the circumstances I should still send the item but send it recorded with online proof and I would be covered by the seller protection act, even though common sense says hold the items till you get the cash!
I know what paypal is like with this type of thing, absolute crap at giving you money back and they mess you around.

I have thus in turn contacted the buyer and he says he put the funds into paypal via debit card transfer (which you can't do as all transfers come from the bank).
I tried phoning him on the contact number he gave me and it was a dead line. His ebay number was also dead.

All this evidence is mounting up and I am beginning to think this is odd.

Oh just for future information for everyone, ebay are releasing your telphone number, name and postal area (I.E Stockton on Tees, Yarm etc) to the buyer! I am sure that is not allowed, that have a duty to protect data not hand it out!.

Chris

Rick · #19 16-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Chris Harte

I have thus in turn contacted the buyer and he says he put the funds into paypal via debit card transfer (which you can't do as all transfers come from the bank).Chris

Yes you can

bigred5765 · #20 16-10-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Harte

I have contacted paypal and they said due to the circumstances I should still send the item but send it recorded with online proof and I would be covered by the seller protection act, even though common sense says hold the items till you get the cash!
I know what paypal is like with this type of thing, absolute crap at giving you money back and they mess you around.

I have thus in turn contacted the buyer and he says he put the funds into paypal via debit card transfer (which you can't do as all transfers come from the bank).
I tried phoning him on the contact number he gave me and it was a dead line. His ebay number was also dead.

All this evidence is mounting up and I am beginning to think this is odd.

Oh just for future information for everyone, ebay are releasing your telphone number, name and postal area (I.E Stockton on Tees, Yarm etc) to the buyer! I am sure that is not allowed, that have a duty to protect data not hand it out!.

Chris

you can paypal via credit or debit card, and if you spoke to them and they confirmed its genuine whats the problem??